I do not know maybe it is just a random thought but it seems that science is taking over religion as a reasonable medium to communicate and to make intellect. Long time ago, religions used to be the reason to bring the mass into clam, discipline and teach them about justice and tolerance. It was always regard as flawless and nobody really tried to oppose its existence, claims but it seems that these days they only appear to be hollow and irrational thoughts. You see scientists who do not mind being critique, we see them always adopting to the new era, where as the religions seems to be stuck in the old era and we had to make serious compromises in our lifestyles or pick and choose on what we really want to practice.
I know religion was always thought to bring the inner calm but these days people believe in their locks than prayers and the followers seems to be misinterpreting the thoughts and basics of it. Maybe they do not want to follow it all together, do not believe in it or just think it is way to hard to do it. Most of the time it is the prejudice that is shown when you talk about different religious affiliations, where as in science even if there are divisions they are mostly in a respectable way and in the end, if presented with a solid theory, they do agree and move on.
I think time is near or have arrived where we can confidently put our faith on science and reasonable thoughts and where religion is only useful for collecting masses for some futile speeches, where people will not ask whether you are a Jew, Christian or a Muslim rather educated and well read.
^ If you put all the scientific knowledge together in the universe, and recollect all reasonable thoughts, and if all the scientists in the universe get together with all this knowledge..would they be able to create a measly fly - and if a fly decides to dig into their food and run away..with all their knowledge..can they recover it back..?
I can pose a similar question as to what if all the religions got together for once and tried to find out how a measly fly was created - and if a fly decides to dig into their food and run away. With all their knowledge, can they recover it back?
The question is how one represented in current time is; right affiliation with any religion does not guarantee anything. Any respect, perception or expectation something people in past enjoyed whenever they were call as Jews, Christians or Muslims. Right now, you have to affect someone’s life to get a good review about your ethnicity and religion and most of that review is achieve if you are an expert and scholar.
In past those people got the respect because they knew what they were talking about, what they were preaching and urging and people learned something from it. Valuable stuff that documented for hundreds and thousands of years after which those words understood to the depths and more knowledge arise. Right now one cannot learn anything from those scholars who talk about religion and their knowledge whereas any scientist conference becomes a potential for another breakthrough that will help the humanity.
The benefits and losses attained by science are only temporary. Mind you, I am all for it. The real success and benefit of all humanity lies in recognizing who is the Creator of all - from all times, and will remain forever; the exalted in might and greatness. Without His permission and will, not a single electron can move…think about it..
I am not questoining the Creator or anything. All I am trying to say is that look around you, who is ruling the world right now; science or religion? Who is making the positive influence, followers of religion or science? Think about it...
Followers of science who believe in God defeated the athiest Communists followers also of science(first Man in Space) and the racist Nazi's also very accomplished scientist(first Jet fighter and designers of Rockets) and the Holy Quran predicted that 1400 years ago: Surah Al-Imram Aya #55.
They avoid reasonability like the one I said in my first second and third post, it is about the believers and the impact they are making in the world. People do not believe in those so called scholars as so far they have given nothing but some hopeless speeches to the humanity, whereas people who follow science are making life of humans trouble-free. All you get from these religions and their speeches is divisions and hothead irrational judgment that do not make the ground realities any better. They are not the part of the solution rather an obstacle and problem, which people in the past did not associate themselves. They not only believed in synchronization but also adept it, they did not refuse or avoid any abstract ides by quoting some scriptures rather faced them thoroughly and generally made a difference in their community. Can we now say this about the followers of religions?
This whole science vs religion thing is very a 17th century christain issue. Islam never had a problem with scientists during its golden days...Muslims scientists in Baghdad, Damascus, Samarkand, Bukhara and Andulusia etc. were making huge strides in the fields on medicine, astronomy, engineering but all this never bothered Islam, because Islam promotes learning both religion and natural sciences.
there is truth and lies in religion AND in science...
science and religion have failures and success, both of them
because they are man made, and man is unperfect
perfection is a human utopia
a chimere that people run after, because they are so ignorant, that they can not admit: "i am a humble human, my brain is too limited to understand the full complexity of universe and life, but my religions and science can give me some clues to think about"
and islam is late again…as it is a 21st century problem for islam
just check google video and you’ll find tons of speeches and preaches where beardos are trying to distort science and quran to make them fit
besides amerian christian are as much retarded…they look so stupid with their “creation” classes at school
well this time came long time ago, and basically french philosophers of the 18th century had some hint of this already
but some stupid revolution people brought the country (france) back to middleage!arrrrrrrr
and i am a ghost, not a human thank you:naraz:
ps, only ignorant people can pretend paleontoloy, anthropolygy and molecular biology are not science…lol
perfection is a human utopia
a chimere that people run after, because they are so ignorant, that they can not admit: "i am a humble human, my brain is too limited to understand the full complexity of universe and life, but my religions and science can give me some clues to think about"
It just amazes me to see so much of hatred for science. ( i am not refering to you).Religions feel insecure that one day all their books could be proven that it may be just full of crap.
What universal truth does religion hold. Its made by humans for humans. Its not for other living beings. while nature which i will equate to science is all incoperative.
U can read geetha, quran or bible and say yes i have read a book and now i know relgion, but science is yet to be completely revealed. New innovation, new laws are formulated based on the happenings around with a definite proof , with hopefully reproducable results.:D.
I have nothing against religion because of my weakness i like to believe in a supernatural being. This gives a moral strength to me. U do good u get good something like that. But putting religion before science is plane stupid and also to explain science based on religon is again stupid. Religion is only a moral frame work for humans to function. Science in its purest form is the study of nature and its intricacies. science does not claim to be moraly right, then why do religion need to meddle in science.
The progress western societies have made is mainly because they could keep their churches out of science. Hopefully Islam learns from this.
