religion makes stupid people even more stupid

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To test our faith or belief for truth about God we need to ask ourselves whether we believe in Him to fulfil our needs or whether we believe in Him in a way that helps us meet our requirements from Him.

Do we call upon Him in times of need or do we also worship Him when we are content and needless?

Which is rationally greater?

If my friend Joe does me a favour and I thank Molly for it, is that fair? Then why are we happy about betraying our rationale when it comes to the worship of God? If He deserves it then we should not worship other things that are manufactured by our own hands and minds.

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sorry was a bit busy in the nonvirtual world and forgot about this thread, no i never said that i see God as anything, I won't be completely certain about anything concerning God. is it not possible to be open about this aspect of God. i'll be the first one to say "i don't know anything about God but I need to believe God exists".

I do respect religious people, but some religious people of some religions do resort to arrogance, judgment, closed mindedness and stubbornness just as much as atheists do sometimes right? but in terms of morals and such yes i do respect that religious side. but both atheists and religious people seem programmed.

i can't see myself belonging to either group. i am thinking and pondering and i won't submit to arrogance or prejudice, I hope you understand what i mean.

one thing somebody had said to me which baffled me a bit was, If you say God/Allah is undefinable aren't we in fact defining him/her/it by saying that God is undefinable.......hmmmm so even in that aspect i don't know anymore :D

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i did say atheists too. which irreligious people are you talking about that are closed minded? does me submitting to islam mean somehow that i'm suddenly open minded to you?? even if i've taken the time to study other religions........

that's how you perceive God to be, one that "**is definable by his actions, wishes, commands......." **why impose your view of how God might be on others.no it does not clear anything up for me, gosh you talk like you know all.

somebody I know, wasn't a very religious person before, more like a really fun person, a totally chilled out person but as soon as he was guided by a bunch of christian missionaries towards religion, he turned into this judgmental, totally prudish person with a holier than thou attitude that kind of stuck with only his new very religious christian friends after that, segregating himself from others. it's amazing how religion changes people so drastically, especially how they treat or view other humans.

you have your beliefs and i respect them but i will have my own beliefs, hope you're open minded enough to respect mine. you look happy with yours, i'm definitely very happy with how i see God, can we just leave it at that. so the discussion between you and me has ended from how i view it. this thread topic can go on and on.

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You're totally right diwana ji,everything you've said makes total sense. i see things much clearer now.

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Please read the following link if you really want to know what islam is all about and also let others know. So that together we could help our world to be a better place.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-and-scripture/469318-pakistan-tribalism-islam-and-secularism-explained.html

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