religion makes stupid people even more stupid

[diwana]

Re: religion makes stupid people even more stupid

@psyah

Peace Ranjhaa

I would agree and elaborate with what diwana bhai has said. If we say religion is 2 - which is a multiplier of state, then a stupid person who is on the number -1 when in religion becomes 2 x -1 = -2, likewise the wise person who is 1 becomes 2 x 1 = 2.

Another analogy would be the same thing mentioned earlier about “religion is a tool” - Let’s say a poor user of a drill making a hole in a wall will for sure ruin the wall make gouged out holes that are useless for the intended use and leave the wall in a state that is worse than before. More work is required to fix the wall let alone hang the painting or shelf. On the other hand the person with the same drill who is experienced will drill a hole perfectly and in no time will place the shelf on it making the wall space useful.

This is the basic truth about religion.

Yes. A great response.

@Ranjhaa

psyah

I am sorry but the multiplier logic really goes over my head here. But we can take the tool analogy further. We know and have seen how any religion can be used by otherwise perfectly sane people to do unimaginably inhuman acts and cause distress to everybody around them. Of course, we can always argue that it is not being interpreted properly or the workmen should be blamed and not the tools, but no one can argue that the tool does not play a part. If there was no tool, the workmen at best would have been unemployed and perhaps may have lead an otherwise sane life. What I am interested in knowing is how can religion make a positive impact on any person, make the great earth that we inhabit a better place for everybody?

Great question.

I do not remember the actual verse or meaning but essential meaning what I read was along the line that Quran says it brings people on correct path and can even make people go stray. I just never understood why would Quran make someone go stray? Does Allah wants people to go stray?

(The verse if I get time will post and what it actually means)

The great wisdom here is that, Quran is not a cookbook. Wasn’t meant to be.
Otherwise ALL muslims and non muslims who read it would be taking the same message regarldess of their sincerity and pureness of minds. It takes the human effort ALSO along with just reading the Quran to act wisely.

A knife can remove cancer from the body and can even kill the person if not used properly. The goodness of knife will always be upon two factors.

1- How sharp it is.

2- Who is using it with what intention.

Other way I can answer.

It is not just religion, ANY ideology if taken too far to extreme can be harmful for people.

**If you read the history of mankind from the beginning of time, you will notice reason for ‘mass murder’ had never been religion. **

Millions of people have died in this world from non-relgious wars and conflicts including land dispute, ambition for power, custody of women or honor, simple brutal mentality and non religious ideologies.