Relatives back in India

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Do people have extended relatives back in India, family members that decided to not leave at or after partition and are still there?

I have family across the border, but my attitude is, you chose to stay there, so great stay there. I don’t care to know who you are or to keep in touch.

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We have my dad's brother family but we haven't spoken or seen him all our life

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So you don't want to get to know them because they live in India?

Must everyone follow the same path? Is everyone who moved to Pakistan from India doing well? Should everyone have moved?

Would you have the same attitude if you had relatives in Dhaka? What about someone in UK? Or if someone had moved to Dubai back in the 50s and was now the Royal family's close friend?

I was honestly surprised to see this thread started by you. Aren't you memon? Don't many memons identify with their ethnic identity first, and nationality later? I know memons with third generation relatives in Kenya. Should they get the "I don't care to know you" treatment as well?

As I see it, Indian Muslims don't have to deal with the events going in Karachi. Not sure if they are doing well, or us Karachiwalay.

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the opposite is true in my and other Indian Muslims' cases. almost every Muslim family in India has relatives in Pakistan. we still keep close contacts and still marry Pakistani men and girls of Indian origin. we do have interest in Pakistan due to this reason and the fact that we are Muslims. we have sense of brotherhood.

Indian Muslims have played a major role in Pakistan's development..even a lot of Pakistani leaders came from India, especially the graduates of AligaRh Muslim University.

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Wasn't everyone Indian back them? Ok everyone who lived in a place that mattered.

Perhaps nationalism wasn't so strong back then, but if they had applied for a passport, their nationality would have been Indian.

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Yes I do and I love them dearly and are as precious to me as any of the ones who chose to cross the border post 1947. In fact, I got a call from my chacha in Hyderabad last week, he's planning a trip to America later this year and will be staying with me on his visit.

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Indians kept migrating up and until 70's in large numbers [not as large as at the time of partition]...a lot of men young men from my Khaandaan migrated to Pakistan in 70's. the job situation in India got tougher with time and most who left India for Pakistan got better jobs than they would have found in India.

i know a guy who retired from his job as the President of Habeeb Bank. he had only a B.Com at that time and he himself told my family that he would have just been a Bank Teller if he stayed back in Indithe fact is that Pakistan in those days provided better job for less education and competition was negligible.

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My friend has relatives in Hyderabad. She said they are actually more conservative and strict about girls then her family in Karachi who are more liberal. She has met them maybe once or twice.

Personally I'd think what's wrong with getting to know family from elsewhere. You may even realise you have more in common with some of your extended family/cousins than you think.

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No I dont have any relatives across the border but if I had, that would be the dumbest reason to shun them. If it is in name of Islam that they didnt migrate to a Muslim country, I better quit any relations with all relatives living in US/UK and other non muslim countries as well.

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I've a ton of relatives in India and honestly I feel they luv us far more than we do. They try to stay connected more and we talk or see them in visits they shower so much love. Just wish if we tend to meet more often but these distances .. Sigh

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I agree...after my father passed away in 2008, his cousins and family in India have bent over backwards to stay in touch with my siblings and I...the bond is important to me too as I feel like a part of my Papa is still with me, especially when they tell me about him and his life in India...it's a side of him I never knew.

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when i visited Pakistan, i couldn't help but notice that people there have such a class/status consciousness that they abandon/neglect their own sisters and brothers who aren't as affluent and/or less in social status.

i wanted to see my host's sister who lived in Rafa-e-aam society. he made excuses. so, i drop the idea. i took a taxi and went to see his sister.

this was like 13 years ago when Karachi was peaceful. he had no excuse. his sister told me that her brother hadn't visited her like in 5 years...she visits him by taking public transportation.

now, mA, she is doing very well financially. she still lives in Rafa-e-aam society. her children got good education and are working in Saudi Arabia. mA

at least this doesn't happen in India. people visit each other irrespective of status or neighborhood.

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That may be so KKF bhai but Pakistanis in general are more philanthropic South Asia Investor Review: Pakistan Ranks High on Philanthropy

Also from what I’ve read Karachi is a pretty clean city, has good roads, is not that dense and has a lot of development happening there. A journey to Karachi that changed an Indian

I think you are definitely lucky to have those relatives and a chance to visit.
Personally I wish I had pakistani relatives. I think it would be fascinating to get insight into another country and culture which u can really only do if you know locals. So what if I was not blessed with pakistani relatives I can make my own in the desi tradition of munh-bole relationships.

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I dont have family members in India, although all of my family migrated from Indian part of Punjab (East Punjab).

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So what is your attitude about your family that stayed behind in pakistan when you/your folks moved to canada?

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Not to delve too deep into the topic and I understand the fact they didn't move after partition can seem like a betrayal. If you look at the positives isn't it a good thing they felt they didn't have to uproot themselves and leave property behind after partition. That they may feel somewhat ok and happy where they live at the moment. They'd also be happy living in Pakistan but they feel settled with their situation.

Also I guess there's no harm connecting with them if they are close relatives. It could even be an enriching experience. They could have reached out to you first but if you do then nothing wrong with that either.

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I don't have any relatives in Pakistan, however do have a good number in Afghanistan. I think the trauma of partition has really hamstrung the relations between nations, as well, some families.

I cannot stand Pakistan bashing by Indian Muslims who do it in an attempt to curry favor from their non-Muslim countrymen. We get it, you like India, congratulations, don't insult Pakistan in the process.

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Punjabi muslims were wiped out of Indian Punjab, you had only two options, migrate or be killed.

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punjabis pretty much cleansed each others sides and blame each other to this day. and in 2 mins will be bffs. really weird behavior.