My father recently got the shock of a lifetime when he found out that my mamu and his wife have taken over all of our property in Pakistan. We are a family of three daughters only, no sons.
So now people are telling us , if god forbid anything happens to my parents , these vultures are going to demand some part of the property so it doesnt go to us girls … something to do with islamic inheritance laws..
now my dad is trying to secure back some of the property that was taken over by my mamu from hell … and will be putting it in my sisters names , but he still wants to keep the main home in his name for fear that what if tomorrow one of the sons-in-law turn evil and throws him and my mom out to sell the plot.
I am in a situation where i cant tell my dad to put all of his property in the daughters names, at the same time i am scared hell that these family relatives have an eye on the property and will try to take it away from us every possible way.
now my dad is trying to secure back some of the property that was taken over by my mamu from hell ... and will be putting it in my sisters names , but he still wants to keep the main home in his name for fear that what if tomorrow one of the sons-in-law turn evil and throws him and my mom out to sell the plot.
I am in a situation where i cant tell my dad to put all of his property in the daughters names, at the same time i am scared hell that these family relatives have an eye on the property and will try to take it away from us every possible way.
What to do ???
how??
that is wise.
What is your concern. eventually its yours.
how??
that is wise.
What is your concern. eventually its yours.
Securing the property through lawyers and Capital Deelopment Authority Islamabad , getting duplicate property letters and getting the original ones cancelled ( that they have stolen from us )
My concern is if my parents decide to keep some property in their name ( for personal security reasons ) .... can the relatives claim part of this property since we dont have a brother and we are sisters only. how can we try to avoid that from happening .
You shouldn't do anything. This is an issue between your dad and your Mamu, and needs to be settled in court, as to whose properties is whose. The court will decide...
Have you ever heard the phrase it takes "two to tango"? Well we only know your dad's side of the story. Your Mamu's family probably thinks the same about your family, and how your family trying to take over the plots. These problems are generally more complicated due to internal family conflicts.
What you can do is keep out of this situation. There's already enough people battling this situation. What will happen will happen, and that will be Allah's will, and thus it will be for the best....
Securing the property through lawyers and Capital Deelopment Authority Islamabad , getting duplicate property letters and getting the original ones cancelled ( that they have stolen from us )
My concern is if my parents decide to keep some property in their name ( for personal security reasons ) .... can the relatives claim part of this property since we dont have a brother and we are sisters only. how can we try to avoid that from happening .
your father sounds like a wise man, depending on your relation with him; you could politely tell him your concern .
He must a plan for transaction(from him to you girls)
I don;t think there is real situation there. You need to help him getting it back from mamu from hell. so SUPPORT HIM!!!
You shouldn't do anything. This is an issue between your dad and your Mamu, and needs to be settled in court, as to whose properties is whose. The court will decide...
Have you ever heard the phrase it takes "two to tango"? Well we only know your dad's side of the story. Your Mamu's family probably thinks the same about your family, and how your family trying to take over the plots. These problems are generally more complicated due to internal family conflicts.
What you can do is keep out of this situation. There's already enough people battling this situation. What will happen will happen, and that will be Allah's will, and thus it will be for the best....
Thanks GJ ... well my concern is a bit different , I have to be involved unfortunately coz i am the eldest and we dont have a large family that we can count on ...
Khair , the thing i wanted to know is , again what steps can we as a family take to stop them claiming part of inheritance in Pakistan courts ...
your father sounds like a wise man, depending on your relation with him; you could politely tell him your concern .
He must a plan for transaction(from him to you girls)
I don;t think there is real situation there. You need to help him getting it back from mamu from hell. so SUPPORT HIM!!!
I agree with P.M. I would however let the dust settle first. Right now he's dealing with the Mamu. So maybe when he's completely done with that you could probably mention it to him. in the end, however, It's his land, and he can do whatever he wants with it....
As long as your father has a will, which states that you and your sisters are going to inherit your mamu can do nothing. If the property is your dads islamically your mamu has no claim on it. I mean if it was chacoo (dont know the spelling) ad the property was from your dada abu then there might be an issue. The same thing happended to our house, one of my dads relative took over it we got an elder to sort everything out. So try not to go down the court route, mediate and talk it out.
This is your close family matter and needs to be dealt carefully and wisely. I suggest not to go to court but deal it politically (family pressure, etc). Court will take years and during that, your mamu may make false papers and sell it off. It happens in Pakistan all the time (go to any Kacheri and see court cases yourself). A good area where I used to live in Rawalpindi had more than 30% plots sold out several times to different owners...means 1 plot had 4 owners or so. Right now, the plot in front of my house has 3 claims over it (all owners are with legal papers). And the one most powerful has started construction on it with chowkidars with loaded guns taking care.
If this was not your family issue, I would have told you this way used by someone I know. It was very fast for him.
There are property dealers in Pakistan who offer you a percentage of actual property value and then you are no more the owner. Like you have house with market value 1 crore. If it gets taken (not recoverable), the dealer will offer you 30~35% in cash and rest is his job. They have links, power (bureaucatic), bad guys on hand and get it back on DANDA ZOR. You will have to support property dealer on legal issues later to legalize property in his name. Like give undertaking that yes, you sold the property to him, etc. That's it.
First I didn't believe these things but it was an eye opener for me to know how things work in this country!
Mustanamalik is right. This is going to take some hustle and muscle. One of my distant relatives passed away in NY and had a house in Islamabad. Some fraudster working in the CDA found out and transferred his plot into his name through illegal means. The brother of the deceased, one of my uncles, came to know and was residing in Karachi. He contacted my dad and they had two options, go to court (that would have taken a lifetime) or get it done through some property dealer by giving him some moolah. Needless to say, the property dealer took care of everything.
