REGARDING PANAMA: Qatari letter

BARRISTER AITZAZ AHSAN’S FINDINGS ON NAWAZ’S SUBMISSION TO THE COURT REGARDING PANAMA:
Talking Points: Qatari letter:

Letter gives a fabricated story:

  1. Nawaz addressed the nation twice Panama
    He addressed NA and placed all the documents before the Speaker:
    WHY did he not mention Hamad bin Jasim?

  2. The entire money-trail was spelt out by NS. but there was no mention of the Qatari Prince or his father.

  3. Jasim’s letter is hearsay and cannot be taken as evidence. Hearsay is inadmissible. “Suni sunai Baat” is not evidence. And Jasim starts the letter with “I am informed…” Mei’n nay suna hai k…"

3..Moreover, born in 1978, Jasim was an infant when Mian Sharif was allegedly given 12 million dirhams by Jasim’s father. Jasim can have no direct first-hand information of this transfer. His letter is worthless in court.

  1. Jasim’s letter can become admissible as evidence ONLY IF he personally appears in Court and is subjected to CROSS-EXAMINATION AND volunteers to to go to jail for perjury if proved wrong. Then ALONE will he be a witness to be relied upon.

  2. BUT if he appears in the witness box he will have to explain, among other matters:
    i. What real estate projects did his family and Sharif undertake together? ( Full particulars of projects to corroborAte his statement).
    ii. Who were there bankers and what bank statements and third-party contracts can establish these arrangements? (bank statements and contracts to corroborate his statement).
    iii. Names and particulars of other business partners, senior executives and employees who may be summoned to corroborate him along with the relevant record.

  3. Sharifs will have to explain how Mian Sharif came about 12 million dirhams that he invested in Al-Thani family business? How did he initially raise the money outside Pakistan despite strict SBP controls? Could he have done so through legitimate means?

  4. REMEMBER: the issue is not that since the old man is dead, there is no one to answer. (Hahaha). No. The question still is WHETHER the money money-trail provided by the LIVING SHARIFs is correct and legitimate or not? Could the ELDER Sharif have actually raised foreign exchange abroad without declaring it in Pakistan? If not, then the 12million dirhams contributed by elder Sharif in 1980 (as per Jasim’s letter) were PROCEEDS OF CRIME and any property made through these funds is liable to confiscated by the state and the owners punished for profiting by laundered money.

  5. Thus it matters not if Mian Sharif is dead. IF the proceeds were illegal to begin with, all purchases from them would be illegal and liable to criminal prosecution. No one can profit from his or his predecessor’s crime.

  6. Jasim’s letter clearly states that the original source of the funds with which the Mayfair Apartments were purchased, were generated through a business partnership with the Qatari Royal Family. Quite convenient because the Royal family pays no taxes and is bound by no fiscal discipline. (Note,too, the LNG contracts and the purchase of No 1 Hyde Park for £42.5 million). The question is: why did NS make no mention of the Qatar connection in the purchase of the Mayfair Apartments?

  7. NS said that his father set up a steel mill in 1980 in Dubai. Jasim says that Mian Sharif invested in Real Estate in 1980. Obviously the statements do not match. Why? Because Jasim could only provide so-called “certification” for real estate only. So the narrative had to be changed from Steel Mill in Dubai (per Nawaz) to Real Estate (per Prince Jasim).

  8. The point remains that having ADMITTED ownership of the Apartments, the BURDEN OF PROOF is on the Sharifs to prove the legitimate means of the purchase. Here conflicting evidence (Jasim million vs NS) has been provided.

  9. AND there is NO EXPLANATION of the question how Mian Sharif took out (or even generated outside Pakistan) 12million dirhams (per Prince Jasim) without declaring these funds to the State Bank of Pakistan? That alone is a criminal act and proceeds thereof are proceeds of crime. That has become the ORIGINAL SIN.

  10. The Supreme Court should summon NS HNS. MNS. Interior Minister and now Hamad Jasim and subject them to cross examination.

  11. IMPORTANT: Significant is the sudden departure from Pakistan of the Interior Minister Nisar Ali. If summoned he would have to confirm his video-recorded statement that the Flats were purchased by NS in 1992-3. PS: this is just the time when the Lahore-Motorway contract was signed!!! If Nisar were to be appear in court he would have to reconfirm his statement demolishing Hussain Nawaz’s version of purchase in 2005-6. So Nisar has been sent into involuntary exile on so-called medical grounds.

  12. FINALLY: for the record:

i. both in the Wali Khan case (1975) and Mohtarama Shaheed BB case (1997) newspaper reports were relied upon against the respondents. How can the Supreme Court not rely on newspaper reports against NS.

ii. If PMs YRG and RPA can be summoned to court, why cannot NS?

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Newspapers and books can never ever been part of record or evidence unless they provide clear link and evidence. What happned in past in kangroo courts doesnt mean basic tenants of law will be changed. For Qatari letter, the fact is that Sharif family is in business for decades and they have providing enough money trail plus they were in exile for 9 years. Any one who does their own taxes or finances know the devil is in the details and unless some one is looking at every transaction, its not possible to get to conclusion. Sharif family is providing pretty good financial records. Question is the other side has any thing on them ? So far they have messed up case.

Rest of your questions are meaningless as they pertain to entire financial chain over decades. Nor you can question neither one can answer without having 40 plus years of financial transactions. That is why SC is set up and they will need to comme up with verdict based on who ever has better or more complete evidence. For now it looks like PTI has nothing and Sharif family (as you would expect from any business family) has tons to prove their financial health.

Rest is meaningless.

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Eak tu PTI waloon ko saboot ka masla paRa rehta hay

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Lol…main hans hans kay behal horaha hon.. kitna bara saboot lai aye…pmln walay…

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Atleast purani radi tu lay kr nahi aye…pakoray laynay kay liya…

I knew PMLN will comeup with something like this…and if push come to shove, the Prince of Sharjah and Prince from Saudi can issue letters…and Arab Banks working in these countries can do the same…

But what did PTI, who created such hype and once again lied about the proves came up with??? A book written by an idiot?

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Khe Khe Khe… Legally.. PMLN did very fine job…

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I posted here much early that late Mian Muhammad Sharee will come out in this issue but no one gave it importance .

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They have provided money trail? Do you know what a money trail is?

Secondly, we are talking about millions of dollars worth transactions…not pocket change. Its not like someone is asking them to account for the 50 rupees they paid to buy 1 kilo mutton in 1984. We are talking about huge sums related to tangible properties that are still in their posession. Simply not possible that no official records of those transactions exist (assuming they were legitimate…hah)

Qatari letter is 2 steps ahead of a joke. Getting a letter from a son regarding what his dead father did, 3 decades after the fact, is perhaps good in SHarif’s books, but I trust the supreme court is not stupid enough to fall for this hogwash.

It is pretty obvious that the SC is leaning towards forming a commission

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Just for PTI’s info…

Commission if formed, then that would be a victory of PMLN..

Two main reasons:

  1. Commission also need proves and as we saw in rigging case and in the proceedings of this case…PTI have no proves against the statement…

  2. in Commission, they can put the story right..which may be like this that Mian Shareef started Gulf Steels with Royals, he have In-Kind Capital and they were the operators where as Royal familiy were their sponsors and financers…something still in common practice is Arab World…and since they were victim of Nationalization Policy and were not taking part in politics…they left for UAE and started new business fir which they had expertise…

The business continues for 8 years…until Gen Zia took over and in one of his visit to UAE he met Mian Shareef and invited him to come back to Pakistan and offered him his Foundaries…now the same offer was made to the founder and owner of BECO noe known as PECO…but later refused to cone back and settled in West Germany…

They sold Gulf Steel, and parked the capital in Tihami Real Estate Development in GCC…it is well known fact that this real-estate fund have investments almost all over the globe…with Special focus in Western Europe and US and GCC…

The money remained with them till year 2000, that’s when they were sent to exile and like 1972, they had to leave everything behind…

Once in Saudi, they Royals helped them and bank and private/personal loans they got along with some amonut from Al-Tihami fund…

Since they were using two of these flats in UK, they in setllement with the funds, got it transferred on their name…

There u go…the dots connected and go challenge this narrative…

If required, they can produce documents from banks and companies…backing above story…things normally stay in grey area in Gulf Countries specially if royals are involved…

Now does PTI can prove this story wrong???

To prove it wrong they need to produce proves of money laundring…do they have it??? Hell no…

And NS will come out of it…thanks to IK and his lousy lawyers

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I don’t understand why a commission? Why can not SC judges decide this open fraud case which involved billions of Pakistani Rs. stolen from treasury of Pakistan. NS and his cronies puri quam ko hamesha chootia banatay aarahay hain. aakhir kab tak.

This Qatri arab seems to be himself a fraud. How much gratification has he obtained from NS and his cronies by submitting this false and fraud statement in SC of Pakistan.

ek jhooth bolnay ke liay hazaar jhooth bolnay parh rahay hain

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‏اٹھ باندھ “کمر” کیا ڈرتا ہے
‏پھر دیکھ “قطر” کیا کرتا ہے ..

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He really born in 1978 , any proof ???

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Yesterday Shahzaib Khanzada made Jahangeer Tareen soeechless on this date issue, “Barrister” Aitzaz is going to finish PTI single handedly!!!

This guy was minister in early ninties…

Watch Shahzaib Khanzada and Jahamgeer Tareen’s yesterday show

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This is well understood thing that everyone should be given right of minimum one appeal so a basic trial at SC can not fulfil the requirement of justice .
(however case agar PPP kay khilaf ho aur accused Saraiki/Sindhi Baluch ho to phir no need to fulfil the requirement of justice like PM Gailani case)
Actually PTI is always in hurry so they are helpful for Nawaz .

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Come on, it is obvious that Babar Awan Screwed Asif Zardari, Gillani and PPP royally…the way he is doing it with PTI

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Not sure who came up with the 1978 birthdate. The Qatari in question was born in 1959, and had been involved in Qatari politics and governance till a few years ago. In any case, the entire letter is based on he said she said, so dont know how any court with a semblance of sense and logic can hold it viable.

Hamad himself is a shady figure, who once was embroiled in a kickback scam in a weapons purchase deal. He paid a ‘fine’ to get out of prosecution. He also is accused of torture of a fellow countryman in the UK…so not exactly someone you should pick to vouch for you.

As far as a commission is concerned, the SC CJ has already said that any commission formed will order institutions to provide evidence, (not ask for evidence from political parties, which is stupid to begin with). The current hearing is where the parties are submitting their evidence, simply to show that the case is worth hearing.

Once the case goes to the judicial commission, it would investigate those bits of information through institutions, something they did not do during the rigging investigation.

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Seen the program already hence the question . I was expecting some die hard fans of PML N will rite it ( as i m not a fan of sharif brtoerhs ) but no one rite about it. Tareen was like " errr oooooo " Then he came up with statement . I asked my lawyer to check .

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One thing is confiremd. These sharif brothers have real strong relations with ppl. in middle east. How quickly this letter is generated ( thanks to saif ur rahman ) .
That was the reason the middle easterns think that our army will be on call . Now they will reduce the khairat to sharifs and will shift to the man in khaki. Same as amerika bahadur doing by keep giving haddi to top officials on the name of trainings etc.

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So today also PTI failed to produce any proves and Judge have told Hamid Khan that if he fails to refute evidences presented by Sharifs then they’ll have no case to goto comission..