Regarding blocking of porn websites in Pakistan

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I might be very naive so apologies if my info looks incomplete , but in the UK, YTube does not have any porn readily available to people .. What one does in the privacy of four walls is something the government doesnt control. But there are strict laws in place where and how the "legal" industry will be conducted.

In majority cases, individuals have to pay money to watch this crap. So you cant call it free or easy access.

True that not all muslims are equally religious, but there is a huge difference between an immoral activity v/s a common sin or crime. Governments cant and dont have to control individuals in what they do in their homes. how much money an individual wants to splurge on this kind of stuff. But when it comes to the country's morals, governments have the right to make laws and policies to ban any immoral activities that can create societal breakdown.

Yes, I continue to believe that the Porn industry should be made inaccessible in muslim countries, infact should be classed as a criminal activity, because it does nothing but corrupt brains, create more frustration in the society, breaks relationships and encourages immoral activity. I do live in a free country myself but like I said, even in this free country, Porn is not an acceptable field. Neither do we have free or easy access to it, neither is it deemed so comfortable for people to share with each other that they watch porn ! so in this very much Free country, we still have strong limitations because the industry was made "legal" only to regulate it , not so that it gets openly accepted around the world !

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It's okay for a society to ban-restrict pornography on internet or television without being labelled as religious fanatics.. Even the most secular and liberal societies draw a line somewhere.. to determine such boundaries the sensitivities of the people living in that society must be the detrimental factor. These restrictions have nothing to do with being secular or religious.. In societies like Singapore and Malaysia.. strict laws are applied to restrict pornography.. not because of religious factors..!!!!

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I stand corrected. :). You convinced me.

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Chicken Biryani

Porn is easily accessible in UK as well as US. There are free tube sites in addition to paid sites. Moreover there are 24 hr porn channels on TV.

The only grounds upon which you can oppose porn, is your personal distaste for it. Mainstream porn employs adult women who do the work willingly. If porn goes against your morals, religion and sensitivities, you have the option to not watch it. But keep in mind there are many people who enjoy it..people who are adults and can make their own decisions.
Only children's access to porn needs to be restricted.

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"But when it comes to the country's morals, governments have the right to make laws and policies to ban any immoral activities that can create societal breakdown.

Yes, I continue to believe that the Porn industry should be made inaccessible in muslim countries, infact should be classed as a criminal activity, because it does nothing but** corrupt brains*, create more frustration in the society, **breaks relationships* and encourages immoral activity."*

Whats immoral to you, might be perfectly acceptable to others. Your statements are contradictory as on one hand you agree that governments dont have a right to control what people do in their homes but then go on to say govt's have the right to control immoral activities (activities that ppl might be doing in the privacy of their homes)

There is a lot of debauchery going on in the real world. People are having casual sex, one night stands, flings, affairs. There is a lot of promiscuity going on and indulgence in 'forbidden sex' activities. If at all its these activities that are causing broken relationships and societal breakdown according to you. However You cannot stop them neither can governments.

What I'd like you to understand is that for many men, porn is an outlet..perhaps the only one.
There are men who can go out there and have the so called immoral, forbidden, fornicating, adulterous sex for real and cause societal moral breakdown (your govt cant do crap about it) and and there are many men who cant do that and they watch porn. Why do you want to deprive them of that?

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Sorry, without going into specifics this time, I understand that our opinions are clearly in complete contradiction to each other. But just to clarify a few pointers:

  • Someone who thinks they are deprived of Sex, should resort to get married rather then going low as to watch porn and further encourage this immoral industry.

  • Yes to some drugs and alcohol are acceptable, to many others they are not. To some, prostitution is acceptable, to many others its not. To some porn is acceptable, to many others, its not. The fact is that majority fall under the category where either their religious values or human values wont allow them to consider an immoral activity as an "outlet". Yet many out of that majority fall short of their values and get indulged in these acitivities. That does not mean , to satisfy this specific set of people or to help them find justification for their acts , government should create acceptance for such things.

  • There is a world of a difference between " free society" and "allowing elements that will systematically breakdown a society and its values". free society means, an individual enjoys their life while still being bound within certain civil and moral laws. If a man decides to walk nude on the streets, he will be arrested under civil and moral laws, even in a free society. To "regulate" alot of immoral acitivities some governments make tiny elements of the trade legal , but still put hefty checks and balances on it to avoid its widespread use or misuse.

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Chicken. This isn't about defending porn, it's about defending a person's right to do something as long as he is not harming anyone else. Walking nude affects other people, watching porn in the basement of your parents house does not.

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Right, Saeed if that is the case that someone wants to watch porn within four walls of their room's privacy, they can spend money and watch it. What an individual does within their own privacy is something which reflects their own values and their own beliefs.

I dont think Government has said anything like " if you are caught watching it you will be prosecuted" ... however as a blanket policy, I believe the government has taken a positive measure towards stopping free and easy access to Porn, because the last thing anyone wants is for this to become acceptable for the masses.

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Restricting the internet is a big no no. What the government is doing is preventing information from getting to us. What if the Government of Pakistan uses this as precedent to ban GS in Pakistan saying it is against Pakistani principles. Or something a bit more realistic, what if the government starts blocking news websites that criticize it's policy.

This is a slippery slope we're on.

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And I am paying for internet, I am paying to connect with the world wide web, not what's left of it after the Pak gov bans parts of it.

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No question. However a few in favor of the ban have used Religion as the reason.

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Wish more would aclnowledge their position. May be incorrect when offered logic. Good for you.a rare post. Someone please save this for posteritt.

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And what about the attic ( Jk)

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Saeed, why is there law in the first place? Since people want to live a “free life”, no civil laws should be in place either. But there are laws to keep a descipline for the greater good of mankind.

Following that simple example, internet is a wild horse. Restrictions on immoral trade and anything that is capable of causing social or moral destruction, should be taken as a positive step, because it helps maintain sanity and moral values in a society. Which inturn has a positive impact on mankind.

If at all, any comparison of Porn are to be made , you can make them with prostitution or incest … Surely GS or news channels have not given any reasons to any governments or people to ban them on immoral grounds :cb: If government starts to make restrictions for personal gains or to stop healthy and positive discussions from happening , then that is clear infringement on the human rights and should be retaliated against with full might. In that scenario, they are not blocking content based on immoral trade or religious sactity. Hence they will recieve all the chitrol in the world for their actions !

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We’re pissing off a lot of horny teenagers right now.

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^ :omg:

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Porn is a difficult subject.
All of the people supporting porn over here. How'd you feel if you found your kids watching it on their own personal computer?
My answer is "weird". Now come up with something different :p

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Apke aise bahotse posts mil jayenge....

Regarding blocking of porn websites in Pakistan

Good move by pak. Lets hope they can enforce it!!

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Did you actually search for these terms. How did you find out.:hoonh:

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banning porno sites is against basic human rights and a blatant government intervention in one's personal life.

but as i think of it from cultural standpoint, there is a problem...

when young folks (say between 14-28) see a porno they get aroused to no extent...i doubt anyone will disagree

now in western countries there are still many ways of releasing that "extra" tension....most have partners after 15...but in pakistan, there is absolutely zero mechanism to release that tension, which means more child molesting and more anarchy...actually i heard from many sources that in villages, young boys train on goats and female donkeys after watching porno

now you may laugh but I am trying to show the cultural aspect of this problem.....it is real!

with that in mind, not sure porno ban is such a bad thing in countries like Pak! it will certainly be good for goats......