Regarding blocking of porn websites in Pakistan

Presumably, this step was taken on religious/moral grounds, to save our youth from ‘corruption’ of their minds.

I always wonder, why is the govt only bothered about securing the ‘Jannah’ of the ordinary Pakistani young male. Why arent they bothered about the youth who are actually engaging in ‘debauchery’. Mazhab bhi sirf aam aadmi kay liey hi reh gaya hai kya?

It is always the sexual outlets of the ‘have-nots’ that bother society and governments. The privileged youth are out there actually having sex and no one can dare stop them (and no one should) but they want to deprive the ordinary male even of masturbatory material.

It’s hypocrisy, in the same way as poor men are arrested and publicly disgraced for consuming cheap liquor, on moral/ethical grounds, while rich men sip on imported wines in the safety and comfort of their drawing rooms.

Sure, its not a big deal. Those who want porn still have torrents, proxies etc. Its the intention of the govt that bothers me.

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Whats a sexually charged, frustrated youth supposed to do in Pakistan?

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good post krmaml1.

In Pakistan, there is zero substance in anything that is passed in the guise of Islam. The whole society is hypocritical and that is why it is going down the drain. It's strange that the more outwardly Islamic Pakistani society gets, the worse it becomes for everyone.

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Porn is completely haram so it should be banned and if government has done something right we should appreciate it and also pressurize government to stop all other evils too

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^ agreed. like putting all mullahs and their followers in prisons. the biggest evil in the country.

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Why be so hateful?

I did not know you would be interested in porn so much to have all mullahs jailed. ;)

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What do you want to propose?

Open porn for everyone?

Any govt. has to have some kind of laws. There are laws against porn in every country. And those laws are different from country to country.

It so happens that Pakistan has one set of laws against porn. But that really does not stop people poor or rich to find ways to get to porn.

So why cry? Go ahead find those ways and stop being a cry baby if you think that is good for you. Leave rich and elites worry about themselves.

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I wonder how the ‘have-nots’ survived in '80s and before. :chai:

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Mullahs stand against kufr of secularism and spread Islam that is why enemies of Islam hate them but Islam will win and Mullahs will lead Muslims to victory over all kinds of kufr and their followers

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Shero, unfortunately in many years of following islamic debates, i havnt come across a single mulla who had his basics right ! Seriously the term "Mulla" has become a disgrace to the actual concept of Molana , about time we start educating maulana's and pick them wisely to become Islamic scholars for our mosques and Islamic queries.

Khair, that aside ... back on to the main issue. Even a society and culture like UK doesnt allow free or easy access to Porn. Just because Pakistan's authorities decided to put a ban on Porn material, doesnt mean they are zabardasti depriving the nation of something ! infact its a brilliant move. Very much needed.

Most importantly due to our religious values. Next, due to the moral values. In the west and non islamic cultures, kids are given sex education which tells them what is right and what is wrong, despite that , they will not have free and easy access to Porn material. It is seen as a vice and non acceptable act if someone says they enjoy watching this crap. People at work get dismissed in less then 2 seconds if they are found watching porn or keeping objectionable pictures or material in their computers. Such is the level of vigilance that the government keeps on the nation.

So why does it all get wrong when a Pakistani government wants to do the same? Pakistan doesnt endorse any sex education, which means one is already vulnerable if shown this creepy world of porn.. on top of that, you want easy and free access to Porn? Infact, in muslim countries, this should be a made a criminal act to have anything to do with objectionable material.

Governments have the responsiblity to control all means of communication that can exploit their moral, civil, religious or any other values. Since they cant control individual people , they create policies that create hurdles on a larger level, for example , blocking all objectionable material on networking sites. Making it illegal to import or export CD's, that contain this material.

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Wrong. You can access internet Corn freely if you own your own personal computer, your own internet connection. And yeah no watching it in front of other people. I'm guessing the government can't stop you as long as you're doing it privately. And yeah no child Corn.

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Most importantly due to our religious values. Next, due to the moral values. In the west and non islamic cultures, kids are given sex education which tells them what is right and what is wrong, despite that , they will not have free and easy access to Porn material. It is seen as a vice and non acceptable act if someone says they enjoy watching this crap. People at work get dismissed in less then 2 seconds if they are found watching porn or keeping objectionable pictures or material in their computers. Such is the level of vigilance that the government keeps on the nation.
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I guess I'd get fired too, if I viewed corn at my workplace. But that's because I'd be making other people uncomfortable doing that. I guess this might even fall under the category of Sexual Harassment.

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So why does it all get wrong when a Pakistani government wants to do the same? Pakistan doesnt endorse any sex education, which means one is already vulnerable if shown this creepy world of porn.. on top of that, you want easy and free access to Porn? Infact, in muslim countries, this should be a made a criminal act to have anything to do with objectionable material.

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Because the government shouldn't be interfering in your personal life.
Is our government doing anything about bringing Sex-Ed to Pakistani classrooms? No.
Chicken how about not suggesting such laws(criminal prosecution for viewing porn) to Pakistanis, when you yourself live in a free country. No offence intended.

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Governments have the responsiblity to control all means of communication that can exploit their moral, civil, religious or any other values. Since they cant control individual people , they create policies that create hurdles on a larger level, for example , blocking all objectionable material on networking sites. Making it illegal to import or export CD's, that contain this material.
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Government has the responsibility to protect our lives not our morals. The government is failing miserably at the former, so it should really re-evaluate it's priorities.

All that said, I'd take a corn ban over a youtube ban any day of the week.

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Like Saeed said, a Porn ban is certainly more easily defended than a Youtube ban, but the premise remains: the government has a right to control the content that its citizens are able to access. If the government blocks Youtube and porn today, what's to stop them from blocking a newspaper, or website, that speaks against the existing administration? Look what happened in Iran and Egypt during the elections and revolution, respectively.

Furthermore, not everyone's morals are the same. Your statement about Muslim countries banning all objectionable material assumes that every Muslim finds the same things objectionable. It's undeniable that many people in Pakistan do not live the most pious lifestyles, and if they want to watch porn, or read books on atheism, or anything else that is considered un-Islamic, and they do it in the privacy of their homes, what business is that of the government's?

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The govt of Pakistan cant provide her citizens with basic necessities, but takes it upon itself to regulate morality. If the state cared more about actual issues, Pakistan wouldnt have a literacy rate hovering at 55 percent. Instead, they are off regulating what every Tom Dick and Abdullah is watching in the privacy of his home...

This whole debate perfectly illustrates the problem with Pakistan. The country has its priorities screwed up.

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I am surprised about the vehement opposition to the Ban here. Government has a moral obligation to make sure that the citizens are not let astray. Simple questions. Should child porn be not banned. Somebody would want to view child porn from the comfort of his home. Should this be allowed. It is a neutral perspective...

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Adult porn is between two consenting adults. They produce this stuff for the consumption of other adults who also consent to being exposed to such things.

Child porn is a form of abuse in which non consenting minors are exploited for the pleasure of sick adults who consider children sexual objects.

Big difference.

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Just go to google trends.

All of the top searches for porn terms such as “Sex” “Sax” are done by Pakistanis.

Many Pakistanis mis-spell “Sex” as “Sax” and thus Google Trends show Pakistan as the number one place for this search. :smiley:

Google Trends

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Well said!

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CB's post had several incorrect examples. Children being given sex education does not equate to govt banning lorn in the west. Ditto surfing porn sites st work. That is a specific company policy. Not a law ( at least in the US). The statement about Muslim countries should ban porn appears to be an inadvertant endorsement of govt run by religion.

Goes to show moderates are not the solution but a part of the problem ( though not as nearly large as those on the far right).

For perspective tax evasion is probably more unpatriotic and harmful to a nation than a poor guy somewhere...

PS porn is a Multi billion dollar LEGAL industry in the US. It is NOT against the law. And by the way, child porn is as similar to adult porn as pedophilia is to consensual sex between adults.

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By the same analogy, if a market of remote area (where people have no easy access to open or other markets) purchases sugar from industry at the rate 50 Rs/kg and decides to sell at the rate of 200 Rs/kg then what the consumer or govt have the right to ask remote area market for controlling the prices?
It is the right of marketers to sell at the price they want as they invested their own money. Therefore, it should up to consumer they purchase or not from their local market.

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^ No issue there. The market should determine the price of the good. However, please note that I am referring to activities people undertake in the privacy of their homes.