Re: references for ijma
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Tell me which one is right, initially you told me ijma of 4 scholars, then in your rest of the statements you mention and from historic proof that 2 pairs of imam existed differently. No how could you say they did not differ, well you havent read the book of Imam Abu Hanifa then and they have differed on thousands of fiqh issues which is ofcourse man made. I rest this case to you after that.
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Ok you are like going in circles, so what if Imams were in different period of times? Who said they didnt differ on fiqhi issues, I even gave you examplies lol. We were talking about Ijma, on things that Sahaba didnt differ, also scholars who came after them didnt differ.
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Ok fine, waiting for it well that should be fine so you mean to say sihah sitta should be left aside and only the madhab should be followed.
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Tell me this, when was Bukhari compiled? It was compiled after 4 Imams passed away. So tell me what were people before Bukhari doing? They were not following hadees? Surely they were, just those hadees mihgt not have been written in book form then. 4 Imams knew hundred of thousands of hadees by heart. Even Imam Bukari was a Shafi, after knowing so many hadees he still followed a madhab, so who are we to now follow a madhab.
4 Imams didnt need Imam Bukharo to know hadees, they were before him and theirchain of narration was even smaller then Imam Bukhari. Imam Abu Hanifa even heard hadees from the Sahabas,He met the Sahabas and learned directly from them. Imam Bukhari came 250 years after.
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Ok you mean to go against the Prophet hadeeth again, Prophet told that only one sect will go to heaven who follow the Prophet and the sahaba karam, the rest 72 to hell so decide if all the 4 are towards the truth, who will go to the hell and who will go to heaven.
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So you dont even kow the differenece between a madhab and a sect? Prophet s.a.w said there will be 73 sects and not 73 madhabs. 4 madhabs of make up Ahl Sunnah wal Jamat. And as I said these 4 Imams were either students of Sahabas or grand students of Sahabas, so now who is following the Sahabas?
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Remember i have provided you with eg, and remeber the madhabs vary to such an extent regarding surah fatiha, saying Allaah u akbar, ablution, praying style, what more y ou want you mean to say all the sahabas had different style of Praying.
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Yes and and I told you to buy that book fiqh al imam and in there you will find different hadees. Also buy the book differences of imams by shaikh zakaraia, alot of your questions will be answered.
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Please dont tell me that Prophet had different style of Praying which will again throw sahih bukhari and sahih muslim out of the blanket of proving it wrong.
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During different times, Prophet prayed different. So which ever Sahabi saw him praying which ever way, he took that and then taught to his own people. In the beginning even it was allowed to talk in salat and it wouldnt break your salat. Also you are mentioniing Bukhari over and over, now let see how much you follow Bukhari. There is hadees in Bukari which says that Prophet s.a.w would do rafa al yadeen after every movement in salat, after every sajda, between the sajdas but no one does it today? Even the hadees is saheeh. You should start doing that from tomorrow. A saheeh hadees doesnt mean its not abrogated, it just means its chain of narrations are ok. Its the work of mujtahid to see which hadees is abrogated and which is the abrogator.
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Have you read Ibn Kathir tafsir, read it and read the tafsir of Surah Al fatiha. Well i will give you other hadith
1) Abu Hanifa - Ablution should be done any woman except wife, mother and sister touch you.
Imam Shafi - Ablution to be done if any woman touches you except mom. Well tell me is this hadith not agains the hadith of the Prophet is this not bidah, dont tell me no, I have been an Hanifi for 23 years of my life before bulling around.
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Again there are hadees for both.
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Saying ameen slowly is a clear cut against, hadith of the Prophet please do some research on the Sahih bukhari which was told the best book after the Quran by the method of ijma and accordingly Ijma cant agree on falsehood.So decide what you want.
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So you are saying that Sahabas went against the words of Prophet s.a.w because majority of Sahbas said ameen slowly? This is my last time telling you, there are hadees for both sides, only difference is which is superior. You really sound ignorant and rude.