Assalaam Alaikum
Here’s some quotes about ijma that I have:
“You have to follow the Congregation for verily Allah will not make the largest group of Muhammad’s Community agree on error.” Ibn Abi Shayba relates it with a sound chain.
“Allah’s hand is over the group, follow the largest mass, for verily whoever dissents from them departs to hell.” Narrated by al-Hakim and al-Tabari from Ibn Abbas, and al-Lalika’i in al-Sunna and al-Hakim also narrated it from Ibn Umar.
“Allah’s hand is over the group, follow the largest mass, for verily whoever dissents from them departs to hell.” Narrated by al-Hakim and al-Tabari from Ibn Abbas, and al-Lalika’i in al-Sunna and al-Hakim also narrated it from Ibn Umar.
“Verily Allah will not make Muhammad’s Community agree on error.” al-Hakim narrated it in the Mustadrak (1:116, 177) with a sound (sahih) chain.
“Verily Allah will not make my Community agree on error” Tirmidhi with a fair (hasan) chain.
“Verily Allah will not make my Community — or Muhammad’s Community — agree on error, and Allah’s hand is with the largest Congregation.” Tirmidhi said: “And the meaning of “jamaa” according to the people of knowledge is: the people of jurisprudence, learning, and hadith. Tirmidhi (gharib) #2256, Cairo ed. Aridat al-ahwadhi (11:9)
“Whoever among you wants to be in the middle of Paradise, let him cling to the Congregation.”Tirmidhi related it and said it is sound (sahih).
“My Community shall never agree upon misguidance, therefore, if you see divergences, you must follow the greater mass or larger group.”Ibn Majah (2:1303 #3950) Ahmad narrates it mawquf through three sound chains to Abu Umama al-Bahili and Ibn Abi Awfa. Bayhaqi in al-Madkhal narrates something similar from Ibn Abbas. “My Community shall not agree upon misguidance. Therefore, you must stay with the Congregation, and Allah’s hand is over the Congregation.”Tabarani narrated it with two chains from Ibn Umar, one of which is sound (sahih). See Haythami, Majmaal-zawa’id, chapter on the obligation to stay with the Congregation. “Verily Allah has protected my Community from agreeing upon error.” Ibn AbiAsim narrated it in the Sunna and Albani declared it hasan in his Silsila sahiha (3:319).
The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said: “There was disagreement amongst Jews and they split into 72 groups. In exactly the same way, there will be disagreement and divisions in my Ummah. It will split into 73 groups. Apart from one of those groups, all the remaining 72 will be thrown into Hell.” When asked which group will be on the right path, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) replied: “The group on the right path, which will enter Paradise, will be the group which follows my Sunnah and that of my Sahaba and this will be the largest group of Muslims.” (Tirmidi, Imam Ahmad, Abu Daud, Mishkat)
The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said: “Allah will never allow my Ummah to unite upon misguidance and incorrect beliefs. Allah’s mercy, blessings and protection are with the largest group of Muslims. And he who deviates from this largest group of Muslims will be thrown into Hell.” (Tirmidi)
“Whoever leaves the Community or separates himself from it by the length of a span, dies the death of the Jahiliyya (period of ignorance prior to Islam)” Muslim (Imara #55) through Ibn Abbas. Muslim relates it with slight variations through three more chains. Ibn Abi Shayba also relates it in his Musannaf. Shaytan is a wolf like the wolf that preys on sheep, taking the isolated and the stray among them; therefore, avoid factionalism and keep to the Congregation and the collective and the masjid.”Ahmad relates it through Muadh and through Abu Dharr, the two chains being respectively fair [hasan] and sound [sahih] according to Haythami in Majmaal-zawa’id. People used to ask the Prophet about the good and I used to ask him about the evil… I said: “O Messenger of Allah, describe them to us [the callers at the door of the fire]. He said: They are of our complexion and they speak our very language.” I said: “What do you order me to do if that day reaches me?” He said: “You must keep to the Congregation of Muslims and to their leader.” Bukhari and Muslim on the authority of Hudhayfa ibn al-Yaman. “Allah’s hand is over the group.” Tirmidhi (hasan). al-Munawi said: “Allah’s hand is over the group means His protection and preservation for them, signifying that the collectivity of the people of Islam are in Allah’s fold, so be also in Allah’s shelter, in the midst of them, and do not separate yourselves from them. Whoever diverges from the overwhelming majority concerning what is lawful and unlawful and on which the Community does not differ has slipped off the path of guidance and this will lead him to hell.” “Allah’s hand is over the group, and whoever dissents from them departs to hell.” Tirmidhi (gharib) from IbnUmar, al-Hakim both from Ibn Umar and Ibn Abbas, and Ibn Jarir from Ibn Umar. “That which the Muslims consider good, Allah considers good.” Ahmad in the Musnad (#3599) relates it from the words of Ibn Masud (mawquf) with a sound chain.
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"Hold fast to the rope of Allah, all of you, and do not split into
factions" (3:103)."O you who believe, obey Allah and obey the Prophet and thoseof authority among you" (4:59).
"You have to follow the congregation for verily Allah will not make the largest group of Muhammad's community agree on error."
"Verily Allah will not make my community agree on error"
"Whoever leaves the community or separates himself from it by the length of a span, dies the death of the Jahiliyya (period of ignorance prior to Islam)";
"My Community will split into seventy-three sects. All of them will be in the fire except one group. They asked: Who are they, O Messenger of Allah? He said: Those that follow my way and that of my companions."
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so who is the largest group, any stats. barelvis, shias etc
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Ahl Sunnah wal Jamat who are the followers of the 4 madhabs, Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi and Hanbali. But also there will be people who will claim to be Sunnis but if their aqeeda is not of Ahl Sunnah wal Jamat then they are not really Sunnis. Also anyone who goes outside the Ijma, leaves Ahl Sunnah wal Jamat.
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First is the Ijma of the Sahabas.
Then the Salf e Salihoon and the scholars.
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khanbax Salaf as Saaliheen includes Sahaba, Tabieen and Tabe Tabieen(They are called as Salafi's in short). Ijma is something which is derived from Ahadith of the Prophet and depending on a situation a judgement is passed.
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Sahabas - Salafs.
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Yea but by Salaf I meant like the 4 Imams and jurits and muhaddits of first 3 centuries.
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No brother they are first 3 generations and not 3 centuries, just google for proof if your not satisfied
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O okay, my bad. :)
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The word salafi or "early Muslim" in traditional Islamic scholarship means someone who died within the first four hundred years after the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), including scholars such as Abu Hanifa, Malik, Shafi'i, and Ahmad ibn Hanbal. Anyone who died after this is one of the khalaf or "latter-day Muslims". - Seikh Nuh
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Ok fine, probably i got it wrong i thought they are the first 3 generations. Thanks for the info brother. Will look out, sorry khanbax for the wrong info.
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Is there Ahl-e-Sunnat Al jimaat as well other than Wal jimaat. some one told me that these al jimaats are barelvis and wal jimaats are deobandis
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Bro, there is only one Jamaa, and that is the Ahle-Sunna, included in those are the schools you have mentioned (Deobandis,Barelvis).
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Isn't this rather funny, "Ijma" to have 4 schools of thought.
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Whats so funny about it. There were hundred of senior scholars in each century belonging to 4 madhabs, in fact they were in majority during all these centuries and still are.
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can anyone point out the history of Ijma, when did this Ijma happened and who declared its infallibility
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Maybe you are not reading anything but you keep asking same questions over and over. Prophet s.a.w said my Ummah cant gather on false, which is Ijma. There are many ayat and hadees related to it.
First Ijma was done when all the Sahabas agreed on the Caliph-hood of Hazrat Abu Bakar r.a.
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so if ummah gathers on something today which is not as per decision of four Imams, will it change the previous one?