Re: references for ijma
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Imam Abu Hanfi was born in 80 and Imam Malik in 96, and when Imam Abu Hanfi would go for Hajj and also visit Madina, he would also meet Imam Malik. There are many incidents if you read the biographies of these great Imams. Also Imam Abu Hanifa did 50 Hajjs so they met many times. And Imam Shafi and Imam Ahmed were of the same time and they also met many times as also recorded in the history books.
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Dont get emotional, can you get me some evidence regarding this, i would be really grateful. I am talking about meeting between Malik and Hanifa and the meeting between shafi and ahmed.
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There are same questions people ask and have been answered. You are not asking anything new. Imama didnt have to say follow me because people were already following them even in their lives. Like Imam Abu Hanfi was in Iraq and people of Iraq were following his fatwas in everything even during his lifetime. He didnt have to go outside in marketlplace and beg people to follow him. l0l. There is Ijma to follow follow a madhab and its called taqleed meaning for a layman, he has to follow blindly. Thats how it was for 13 hundres years until the time of British when new fintnss started and people some people stopped following any madhab. Imams of madhab knew all the hadees so its stupid to say that when you see a hadees contrary to your Imam then leave the madhab. It just means you have came across few hadees but there are many hadees that support the view of the Imam that you have not come across.
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Really, can you tell me since when Imam Abu Hanifa started taking interest in Islam, and can you come across any one hadeeth which supporst your point.
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They were mujtahids so they didnt do taqleed. Untill the 13th century there were only 2 kind of people. Mujtahids and Muqalids. Mujtahids can derive the rules directly and Muqalids follow them.
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Whose taqleed did mujtahid do, how cna you say they did not do taqleed they did taqleed
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All four madhabs are right but you follow one. And understand that only reason there is difference between the madhabs is because there was difference between the Sahabas. Imams were either students of Sahabas or grand-students of Sahabas. Different Sahabas went to different part of the World and whatever they taught there, people of that area also followed that.
And Imams had difference on small fiqhi issues not on aqeeda and haram, halal issues.
You are wrong to say that Imam Abu Hanifa says dont say ameen. According to Imam Abu Hanifa, both are correct but its more reward to say it slowly in heart. Imam Shafi says both are correct but its better and more reward to say it loud. Now you are making up stuff.
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Can you support your evidence from Noorul Anwar and support your point regarding Ameen. Well if this is the case please do visit madrasas and ask them can we say ameen loudly.
Get me the evidence of Imam Hanifa and Imam Shafi, again would be grateful thanks.
Sahaba differed fine, but you are telling on fiqhi issues right what can be those fiqhi issues can you throw some light on it.
Because here we are talkinga about innovations and the way the Madhabs are followed and again whats the ijma for it.
So you mean to say some sahabas said it in there heart and some said it softly claiming hte Haddeeth of Prophet in Bukhari wrong. Well go ah ead i am waiting for your evidences.