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*The questions about siblings and what they do is a bit weird for me too. I find it odd when someone starts telling me that their sister is a doctor, brother is a lawyer, BIL is a doctor and most of their family members are doctor or engineers.

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*Because none of them are paying my bills with their doctor salaries so why would I care what they do to run their homes? *

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oh so this is why .. ok

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Just to Clarify, those questions are THE FIRST communication I've had from these people!

You can guess the standard of living you're used to surely? My dad drives a 16 year old car, but that does in no way indicate what he has/earns.

True, this is the thing, you can't judge much from a persons salary surely, sometimes lifestyles are designed around your salary, I remember an interview on the Radio with Chris Moyles, he was on something like £10,000 a month however he wasn't paid for a few months due to an admin error and he got annoyed, some people commented that surely if you're earning £10k a month, a couple of months isn't going to kill you, however his lifestyle will be designed to revolve around earning that amount, so he will probbably have much larger outgoings than most people. So it's all relative.

This was their first ever communication with me, hence the massive red flags (for me)

See above.

This is true, but asking the question (to me it reads "how much do they make") before even asking if they're married, where they live or about their families or anything seems weird to me.

To me it just indicates a sign of the times, money before all else.

2 Good ways to put this are as follows.

1) I'd rather be crying in the back of a BMW than laughing on the back of a bike (Chinese TV reality show)
2) Eating Dall with people you love tastes much nicer than haute cuisine with people you hate.

I'm not materialistic on any level, probably because I've had material things and understand that their real value is actually... zero.

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Have been through this process for years - these ARE normal questions in first meeting as part of the filtering process.

This IS an arranged marriage situ after all. Its not like you fall in love and compromise on many many things. Its like a girls parents or guys parents will chose the BEST they can find and hence a set of filtering questions to start with and then comes everything else.

Its not nice but its just what it is. Which is why I hate this process and am not going down the arranged route anymore :snooty:

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I don’t mind the other question, just trying to dig out my finances, as a first question, is pretty pathetic, I’ve got nothing to prove.

I guess it’s just the way you’ve been brought up at the end of the day, I know of some people that are constantly maintaining an image and need to prove to themselves and others that they are able to maintain this image, must be a similar bunch.

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Asking about the salary DIRECTLY is very very important. I have seen guys highly education (MBA) earning less than guys who are graduates. So just knowing about their education and about their position and company sometimes doesn't let us know the salary. We need to know the salary to be able to know whether the guy will be able to sponsor the wife or not for the visa purpose besides knowing whether he can support her with a reasonable living standard. Of course, majority of the girls here are working but I think asking a direct question about a guy's salary is a girl's family's BASIC right.

Knowing about sibling's education and their work enable to figure out the education and mental level of the family. Again an important question to be asked by a girl's family.

Love marriage is a different thing as inspiron said since you tend to overlook many things since you already know so much about the guy and you already like his personality/ nature/ behaviour/ attitude that you can ignore many other things.

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shopping for a brand spanking new husband is hard you know
need to know all the details so one can purchase a good spouse..

Is it reasonable to ask the girls family if their daughter is a virgin and had no chakkars in the past?

I don't think these people understand that money comes and goes, people can go from rags to riches and from riches to rags.
It's not everyone birthright to live in luxury Allah decides this.
I think I'm too idealistic.

What a pathetic world we live in :(

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Seriously comparing virginity to job/salary? That's sad. You can ask them the same questions they asked you.

I agree that asking salary directly isn't appropriate but many people do ask that. You are not the only one who knows that money comes and goes BUT these people have to base their initial decision on something don't they? I get why are you are annoyed but again I think you are over reacting and it's especially sad to see your last post.

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I think the equivalent of asking fro salary is = knowing how to cook. but i could be wrong.

I think the equivalent of asking fro salary is = knowing how to cook. but i could be wrong.
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I think this is a better comparison although it’s still not quantifiable as salary.
Although my family wouldn’t really ask this question as it’s not relevant.

Seriously comparing virginity to job/salary? That’s sad. You can ask them the same questions they asked you.

I agree that asking salary directly isn’t appropriate but many people do ask that. You are not the only one who knows that money comes and goes BUT these people have to base their initial decision on something don’t they? I get why are you are annoyed but again I think you are over reacting and it’s especially sad to see your last post.
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It’s a personal question, although this may be cultural as in the UK asking someone’s salary is considered extremely rude.

If asking bout virginity was 10/10 on rudeness scale, I personally would class salary as 8/10.

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Any guy who is looking for a rishts should be ready for these questions. Nothing wrong with this set in fact if these are the only questions then you are getting off lightly.

Only thing that remains are how these questions are put forward. If family of the girl is educated and/or social most likely they will put up these question in light way but even if these questions are asked in blunt manner, they have a right to ask...

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^Agree.. If the questions are put forward the right way I don't see what the problem is..

Virginity (or lack of it) obviously wouldn't affect a person's day-to-day practical life the way a salary would..

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Of course, hence cooking and housekeeping skills are more relevant to ask (we don't ask this) although "chakkars" may affect day to day life.

One of the great things about arranged marriages and having only married once, is you don't have any sort of comparison, so you don;t know any different :P

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How old are you yoda?

To be honest my parents never ask about salaray directly but they ask pretty much all the other questions you put up.

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^I think the salary thing must depend on the job a lot as well..

In those where it can vary a lot (business related, IT etc) I think it's a good idea to try and find out and not just assume..

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I don't have a problem with any of the questions as they are reasonable, I did take the salary and totally blow it out of proportion as it really set the tone for the rest of the questions to me (and this is the first piece of contact! first impression anyone?)

I would flat out refuse to answer a salary question, job prospects, well I never intend on getting a job unless I absolutely have to as I love working for myself.

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What else do you talk about at first contact then? I dont get it. The weather? The inner you?

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when people talk about job prospect most of the time they mean your plans for the future or your career path. Does not necessarily mean "job"

secondly its very rare that parents ask bluntly "what is your salary". Normally they get the idea from your education and type of job/business that you are involved in.