Reason why Two witnesses for women [Split from: Who wants to marry such woman -AV]

.. and for that reason the witness of 1 man is equal to witnesses of 2 women! (explained by Dr, Israr )

Anwaar,
there was an article written in 9th or 10 the grade Urdu book, … what was the name of that topic? :s it was about Nasyan and how fortunate we are when we forget :s

sigh… I should eat badaam as well :s

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Now we are fortunate that you forgot :chai:

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naam batain naam uss topic ka, … or else join my club :-p

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okay....so let me understand this....

someone is ACTUALLY suggesting that the testimony of 2 women is required to be equal to the testimony of 1 man because women are forgetful?

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:D

Carry on

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Someone is actually not suggesting, someone is ACTUALLY quoting the lecture by Dr. Israr Ahmed,

About the witness of 1 man and 2 women, it is written in Surat Al-Baqara 2:282*"Believers, when you make a deal for a loan for a prescribed period of time, write down the agreement. A scribe should write down the agreement between you, with justice. The scribe should not refuse to write it down, as God gave him the knowledge of writing. So he must write it down. The debtor should dictate the writing and [while doing so,] he must fear God, his Lord [and dictate it justly] and not reduce any part of the amount. If the debtor is not of a sound mind or is weak or is in any other way incapacitated to dictate the agreement, then his guardian may dictate [the terms on his behalf] with justice. Make two of your men a witness on this agreement. In case two men are not available, then a man and two women. Such witnesses as you choose. [Two women in place of one man have been advised, so] that if one of them errs, the other may remind her. The witnesses should not refuse when they are called to testify." (Al-Baqarah 2: 282)"*

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ATA, that does not say that 2 women are required cause women are forgetful. Did it ?

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oh ho she meant sumthing else!!!

we know wat ur dr.israr ahmed says is right!

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Did I say it ? no…

What I said was It was explained by Dr Israar Ahmed in one of his lecture,

if some one don’t recognize Dr Israar Ahmed, then read the following article!
Why Two Women Witnesses?

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You carry on now....
I'm just a bit dumbfounded.

I'm going to be suffering some SHORT TERM MEMORY LOSS soon.
Don't anybody worry. I will get medical attention.
I know the cause.
I'm going to be banging my head against a brick wall.

I'll be back.

Re: Reason why Two witnesses for women Split from: Who wants to marry such woman -A

We should take tafaaseer with a grain of salt. They are not words of Allah, they are our interpratation of the words of Allah, that is why there is only one Quran but thousand and thousand of tafaaseer.

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No you are not,
In the mean time read this article…
Why Two Women Witnesses?](http://www.allaahuakbar.net/womens/why_two_women_witnesses.htm)

**TLK,
**I agree but not 100%…

Re: Reason why Two witnesses for women [Split from: Who wants to marry such woman -A

Tafaaseer are interpretations based on narrations and traditions related to Prophet:saw2: and his companions (RA) -

If someone, not a scholar, picks up an ayah or surah and interpret on his/her own claiming to know everything without cross-referencing it to similar topics in quran, sayings of prophet:saw2:, his actions, how his companions interpreted that, the background, and the context, then, Quran itself testifies that “from the word of Allah, many are guided but many go astray as well..”

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I hope you don't forget to come again to this thread...

some times I also need badaam... :s

Re: Reason why Two witnesses for women Split from: Who wants to marry such woman -A

Bottom line is that it requires two women to corroborate a man's statement...

As a side note >> I have never seen two women agreeing on something. They would have different versions for the same story

Re: Reason why Two witnesses for women Split from: Who wants to marry such woman -A

you guys are such mcp's! if you say what's been said in this thread in a civilized country you'll go to jail for gender discrimination

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Dude say whats in your heart!!!
don't make your argument stronger by using "civilized country " kind of term.

Re: Reason why Two witnesses for women Split from: Who wants to marry such woman -A

^ what do you mean? civilized means civilized - having gender discrimination laws is a part of being civilized. Unless I don't understand what you are objecting to

Re: Reason why Two witnesses for women [Split from: Who wants to marry such woman -A

He is saying have the fortitude to come out and say what you mean don't be a phattoo and have bughul main churri, moon mein ram ram

Re: Reason why Two witnesses for women [Split from: Who wants to marry such woman -A

How barbaric. Whatever happened to free speech?