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Yes he hated social settings and didn't like to go anywhere. No Intimacy no intercourse ever is normal for you as a man? No attraction is a possibility but seeing that other men flirt with her might or might not be an indication of anything. She isn't butt ugly basically to the opposite sex. Like I said other than the language, religion(he doesn't follow it), culture he was born in which he doesn't follow either they have nothing in common. So after all other family members are gone, she would still be figuring out if he's gay or straight and who he is because he is so closed.

Spell it out for me. What's the solution?

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:konfused: Didn’t you post upthread that htey’re divorced? If not…that’s pretty much the only solution in this case.

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Correct. She wishes she had made this decision earlier instead of not believing in divorce, wanting to change so it would work because it is an impossibility that a relationship couldn’t work. No, he was never open to marriage counselling.

I think it’s more of if she wasted that much time trying to make something work that ended up never working because she couldn’t figure out what she was in for those years and she’s never felt what most straight women feel in marriage all of those positives of marriage, what are the chances that she’ll get married again?

She has a child that she wanted because she was pretty sure that if she did get a divorce she would never get the chance to get married or have a child. And does she need to marry any straight man, even if she is not attracted to him, to feel those positives of marriage since now that she has the divorced with child tag the number of men in our culture that would be okay with that are too few.

Other women at least had some intimacy during their bad marriages even if they ended horribly. What happens to women like this woman?

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^Your statements are more convoluted than the man in question

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I think this woman should seek counseling.

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how did she have a child without having sex with the husband? :confused: did i misread the whole thing all along? vat!!

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Coerced, mechanical sex once or twice so she could get a child during all those years of marriage is normal. A man has to be convinced to have sex with his wife because she said that his parents can be grandparents. That kind of sex where the man is convinced, mechanical in every way is most likely not how it feels with most normal, straight couples where they are similar to rabbits for the first couple yrs of marriage…? Not the same thing.

The marriage is over. Counseling for what?

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Counseling to help move on. Yes, this woman is divorced and physically has moved on (out of that person's life, living her own life) but not mentally.

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Baby Jesus!

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^ Or Karna and the Pancha Pandavas

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you making this up as going along ?

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^What part of it makes you think it's made up? If you don't have the perfect, great match that's straight and attracted to you, it automatically means that it's made up? Volatility and being emotionally closed to anything and everything is all fake. Everybody in this world is normal. It's best not to see the world through rose colored glasses.

There are people in this world with not so perfect lives and until you actually live their lives and go through their experiences, you wouldn't understand. If you tried to put yourself in her position what would you have done?
It is complicated situation.

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The only solution for this woman is to move on and quit living in the past of why he didn't love her or why they didn't have a more intimate marriage because the truth is, it isn't her fault if he's not attracted to her. She can't control his feelings or desires, so best not to dwell on something which you have no control over.

Since she got a child from him, she has to live the best she can for her child and whether she wants to remarry or not is her decision. If she really is dwelling on how a normal married couple has intimacy then she should just get remarried and hopefully her 2nd husband can provide that for her. By going on and on with this topic, she's only hindering herself from moving on with her life. I don't know if she lives in the West or back in Pakistan, but most families nowadays don't object to their daughters getting remarried. Yes it will be harder with a child, but not impossible. But it depends on how willing she is to move forward. Unless she one day happens to see her ex-husband walking arm in arm with another person, be it male or female, she will never know his reasons for not being intimate with her. And frankly, it's his problem not hers.