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Do you think If Edhi ll come in politicos then he ll be elected as PM ? No Never …
I’m very sorry to say that People of India are more patriot and have more clear vision about Politics then us … PPP jiyaala’s ll vote PPP despite of all Zardari corruption and same is with PML N 
I’m sure if Hazarey exist in Pakistan all media people bring some old stories about his military life and make him fail.
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What make you think Edhi will come into politics?
If i am engineer and if i am good at my work does that mean i should now go and work as a doctor as well???
This is mere speculation that to discourage people of Pakistan that no good can come out of them or forces of evil are so strong that they will not let GOOD prevail... i feel sorry for such minds...
BJP and CONGRESS are almost the same if not worst, the combined corruption of Pakistani politicians can hardly balance the corruption in the telecom sector alone... so no saints on that side of the border either...
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Indian media is not less than Pakistani media but people are more patriot.
You forgive everyone’s corruption but never forgive Zardari.You can accept any pros if he/she is from …
It is for the reason because we can not produce any in known history.
I count good people of Pakistan in my view,
Jinnah, Nishtar,Qadeer,Eadhi,
please add few more
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the nearest on these lines can be Edhi but he is non political. the only political one who has some thing similar to his credentials is Imran Khan - of course you all are allowed to differ :)
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^^ How does Imran reflect the change by actions? Is he running his party affairs differently? Is there any transparency in his party's financial affairs? How can one say that having a college and a cancer hospital is the CHANGE!!! When
Sir Ganga Ram had bigger and better hospital project, which does not run on Chanda but does provide many services almost free? When Ibrar ul Haq kind of people are doing better job for the area he belongs to i.e. building and running hospital there?
Sorry i didn't wanted to get into political discussion here, but it seems like it is not possible!!!
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^^ How does Imran reflect the change by actions? Is he running his party affairs differently? Is there any transparency in his party's financial affairs? How can one say that having a college and a cancer hospital is the CHANGE!!! When
Sir Ganga Ram had bigger and better hospital project, which does not run on Chanda but does provide many services almost free? When Ibrar ul Haq kind of people are doing better job for the area he belongs to i.e. building and running hospital there?
Sorry i didn't wanted to get into political discussion here, but it seems like it is not possible!!!
Ganga ram times were different, people were more sincere then. Ibrar is only trying to replicate what Imran has done. my point was if some one has given to society instead of looting it, thats positive. otherwise I cant see anyone moblising masses to have a social change, everyone's path is different so it cant be exactly lika Anna Hazaray.
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OHH
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some people here only looking for Zardari, rest are allowed to suck the blood from half dead body.
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Change? who is there in our current setup who can 'change'? make a difference? There are some people making difference to help in the misery, help in lowering the misery/pain but so far no one has shown enough guts to actually change something, show guts to stand up to pressure/resistance.
some people here only looking for Zardari, rest are allowed to suck the blood from half dead body.
Not really, Zardari is only sucking while being at top while everyone else is sucking wherever/whenever one gets an opportunity.
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**Change **?
Ab is say barh kay kia ho wrasat faqir ki
Bachon ko apni bheek kay pialay to day gia
Multan Province
ا ب ا س سے بڑ ھ کے کیا ھو و ر ا ثت فقیر کی
بچو ں کو ا پنی بھیک کے ۔۔۔۔۔۔ پیا لے تو د ے گیا
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it breaks my heart to look at tht green cartoon pic! … jeb mulk nahi rehega tu siyasat kahan chamkayeinge!
btw, did anybody watch todays kharri baat with luqman! … he showed this email/letter tht nawaz sent to some US guy!! .. dont remember his name guys! i was rushing for my class!
but anyhow, they were discussing that how in the letter nawaz is trying to convince them tht he sucha a pro american and further he wrote that the best thing americans have done for Pakistan is to appoint Kayani as a chief!
he is one of those most incompetent and a brainless guy i have seen in Pakistan history!
he is just impateintly waiting for his turn … so he can fill his pockets! sick!!!
here is the link! i have yet to watch the full episode
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if ppl are waiting for Imran to come and bring some change!! then im sorry atleast he is not becoming pm in 2013 ...
he still has long way to go!
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if ppl are waiting for Imran to come and bring some change!! then im sorry atleast he is not becoming pm in 2013 ... he still has long way to go!
No body is looking for him except central Punjab.
We now need a party not a man.
Let's hope and prey to god,
I am looking the best option in near future.
A great PPP without Zardari elite.
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and without rehman malik as well :D
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Ganga ram times were different, people were more sincere then. Ibrar is only trying to replicate what Imran has done. my point was if some one has given to society instead of looting it, thats positive. otherwise I cant see anyone moblising masses to have a social change, everyone's path is different so it cant be exactly lika Anna Hazaray.
The problem is that we do not look beyond our nose.
Ganga Ram Hospital is best model for any charitable/non-profit institute, it is news to me that it has gone old and is not applicable anymore, whereas the hospital and many other project built on same model are doing well.
There are plenty people out there who have given more to the society and have built project on permanent basis i.e. Ganga Ram again is example for that, on the other hand, SKCH, probably would die or Govt have to do something about it once the IK is out of picture... that tells alot about the vision and planning of IK... anyway, that is not our topic...
Anyone who preaches change should practice it first, preaching change and not practicing it would give us something like OBAMA...
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Change? who is there in our current setup who can 'change'? make a difference? There are some people making difference to help in the misery, help in lowering the misery/pain but so far no one has shown enough guts to actually change something, show guts to stand up to pressure/resistance.
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No one including us, for some reason the majority in Muslims looks for the leadership and/or waits for it... and while in waiting season they do practice all kind of evils... thinking once the leader is here we will change...
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....Ganga Ram Hospital is best model for any charitable/non-profit institute, it is news to me that it has gone old and is not applicable anymore, whereas the hospital and many other project built on same model are doing well.
There are plenty people out there who have given more to the society and have built project on permanent basis i.e. Ganga Ram again is example for that, on the other hand, SKCH, probably would die or Govt have to do something about it once the IK is out of picture...........
FYI, the government HAD to do something... ummm... like taking over Ganga Ram Hospital and running it when Sir Ganga Ram was out of picture. Poor vision and planning on Sir Ganga Ram's part, you would say? Or you still believe it is a private non-profit institution?
BTW, what kind of change you want Imran Khan to practice before he can start preaching it?
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FYI, the government HAD to do something... ummm... like taking over Ganga Ram Hospital and running it when Sir Ganga Ram was out of picture. Poor vision and planning on Sir Ganga Ram's part, you would say? Or you still believe it is a private non-profit institution?
BTW, what kind of change you want Imran Khan to practice before he can start preaching it?
I wanted to comment on your ganga ram thing but will not say much because you surely do not want to say or hear anything which has not to related to IK... just FYI google Ganga Ram Trust Society...
FOR IK, there is single line which is stated all over this thread and that is Practice what you Preach..
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Biggest Joke of the Century 
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I’m not a dumb like jiyaala’s 
and criticize Nawaz’s brothers as well.