Rasulullah (SAW) has mentioned that women have less intelligence!..

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The root of the issue is that you view Islam from a western mindset. Your values and principles lie in the kuffaar way of life, hence your apologetic attitude regarding many of the teachings of Islam. We are all in need of shedding some pride, which is the cornerstone of western ideology.

One of the principles that you have inherited from the kuffaar is the
equating of inferiority with derogation.

To accept that Allah Ta’ala has created somebody or something inferior to another, in no way implies that the inferior person or thing is belittled.

There are various examples of where Allah Ta’ala, in accordance to His
wisdom, has created certain people superior than others. This is the right of Allah Ta’ala and no one may question His Wisdom. His Knowledge is absolute and we, as His creation, cannot fathom His Wisdom.

Consider that Allah Ta’ala has created:

(a) Our Nabi (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) as the most superior of all the
ambiyaa (prophets).

(b) Hazrat Jibra-eel (alayhis salaam) as the most superior angel.

(c) Hazrat Abu Bakr (Radiyallahu anhu) as the most superior companion of our Nabi (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)

(d) Makkah as the most superior city.

(e) The Quráan the most superior of the Divine Books

These are merely few cases mentioned by way of illustration. If we had the time, we could have easily produced a few thousand examples.

In all these cases, since a superior exists, the converse must necessarily follow to be the inferior.

Can one claim that by referring to them as inferior, we wish to belittle or deride them? Do we imply that they are debase and disgraceful? Does it imply that they are ignominious?

If this was the case it would imply that since Allah Ta’ala has created our Nabi (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) as the most superior Nabi, Allah forbid, all the other Ambiyaa (alayhis salaam) have no value? Does it mean that since the Quráan is most superior, all other Divine scriptures are merit less? The same question can be posed regarding the other examples given.

On the one hand, inferiority is no shame, and on the other hand, it is the prerogative of Allah Ta’ala to grant intellect to whom so ever He wishes to. If in His Wisdom He granted men more intelligence than women, it is His Right. No one can question Him, nor can we, with our feeble intelligence claim, Allah forbid, that it is illogical for Allah Ta’ala to have done so. It is neither implied that Allah Ta’ala has degraded women, nor made them valueless.

Allah Ta’ala has created man and woman for separate roles. He also granted each one of the two qualities which are more befitting for their respective roles, e.g. women are generally more emotional than men in keeping with their role of motherhood. In the same light he has granted men more intelligence than women, in accordance of their role of guardians and overseers over women.

It is misinterpreted this to imply that women are un-intelligent and
stupid. This is the result of the corrupt basis from which you are viewing
the issue. So therefore it is presumed inferiority to mean degradation.

Almost the entire universe is made of inferior beings. We are all in one way or the other inferior. We do not have to hang our heads in shame for being inferior. It is the Divine system that He has created us inferior in some respect or the other. There is therefore no need for women to feel ashamed of the fact that they have been granted less of one quality than men.

It is rational to accept that not all humans are not of equal intelligence.
It therefore follows that some are more intelligent than others are i.e.
others are inferior in intelligence. Can one claim that others are devoid of intelligence? Such a claim will certainly be illogical.

The writer hereof has no qualms in accepting that there are many persons more intelligent than I am. This makes me inferior in intellect. Why should I allow my pride make me feel ashamed of it. Now, I wish to meet a person who can claim to be the most superior in intellect. Yet pride will prevent many a person from accepting that they are of inferior intellect, for in their feeble minds it implies some type of disgrace.

In brief, inferiority does not imply disgrace.

May Allah Ta’ala grant us all understanding.

and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best

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Re: Rasulullah (SAW) has mentioned that women have less intelligence!..

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*Originally posted by fadi_ali: *
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Consider that Allah Ta'ala has created:

(a) Our Nabi (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) as the most superior of all the
ambiyaa (prophets).

(b) Hazrat Jibra-eel (alayhis salaam) as the most superior angel.

(c) Hazrat Abu Bakr (Radiyallahu anhu) as the most superior companion of our Nabi (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)

(d) Makkah as the most superior city.

(e) The Quráan the most superior of the Divine Books
[/quote]

Would you mind supporting this notion of "our prophet is superior most of all"??? While Allah swt in Quran says about the believers that "we do not discriminate between prophets" .... 'la nufarriqu bayna ahadin mirrusulihi'

Also, please provide references to the superiority of Jibrael, Makkah, Hazrat Abu Bakr (ra) from QURAN since you say that Allah swt has done it so it should be somewhere in Quran.

[quote]
.... If in His Wisdom He granted men more intelligence than women, it is His Right. No one can question Him, nor can we, with our feeble intelligence claim, Allah forbid, that it is illogical for Allah Ta'ala to have done so. It is neither implied that Allah Ta'ala has degraded women, nor made them valueless...
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A Quranic reference would be appreciated since you are claiming that Allah swt has done it (more intelligence in men than women).

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In Surah Al-Fath: for Prophet Mohammas (SAW)

He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islâm), that He may make it (Islâm) superior over all religions. And All-Sufficient is Allâh as a Witness.

Hazrat Jibraeel is Said to be the superior angel because he brought the word of GOD (ALLAH) to all of his messenger in earth.

The greatest of all the angels is Jibreel (Gabriel), upon whom be peace, who was described in the following report:

"From ‘Abdullaah ibn Mas‘ood, who said: the Messenger of Allah saw Jibreel in his true form. He had six hundred wings, each of which covered the horizon. There fell from his wings jewels, pearls and rubies, only Allah knows about them." It was reported by Ahmad in al-Musnad, and Ibn Katheer said in al-Bidaayah 1/47 that its isnaad is jayyid.

The Messenger of Allah said, describing Jibreel: "I saw Jibreel descending from heaven, and his great size filled the space between heaven and earth." (Reported by Muslim, no. 177).

Hazrat Abu Bakr being the first one to accept the religion ISLAM in older Men , and who's daughter Prophet Muhammed (SAW) married is the reason given for Hazrat Abu Bakr being his greatest companion.

and Prophet Muhmmad's (SAW) name is mention TONS of time in Quran. and that's the why he is considered as the Greatest Prophet of all time. He was made as Rehmatulil Alameen. He was the one who leaded the prayer in Jannah when he first went there with Angel Jibraeel. Many other reason.l.. read the

  1. Seraatun Nabi
  2. Khulfa-e-Rashdeen
  3. Tafseer-e-Quran

books and you'll know!..

Jazak Allah Kahir.

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Does it mean that since the Quráan is most superior, all other Divine scriptures are merit less? <<

Are they not? If not are you allowed to take guidance from say Geeta?

On the one hand, inferiority is no shame, and on the other hand, it is the prerogative of Allah Ta'ala to grant intellect to whom so ever He wishes to. If in His Wisdom He granted men more intelligence than women, it is His Right. <<

fadi_ali: you are a dimwit with low IQ. I am sure that does not belittle you anyway.

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ChannMahi: thanks for the compliment.. FYI GEETA is not a book of ALLAH aka GOD, so taking guidence from it is no good. FYI Four Books are said to be from ALLAH

  1. Turaat
  2. Zuboor
  3. Ingeel
  4. QURAN

so get your facts straight..

and may your GOD show you the right path.

:)

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maybe YOU need to get your facts straight.. these are not the ONLY books..

2:213 people are a single nation; so Allah raised prophets as bearers of good news and as warners, and He revealed with them the Book with truth, that it might judge between people in that in which they differed; and none but the very people who were given it differed about it after clear arguments had come to them, revolting among themselves; so Allah has guided by His will those who believe to the truth about which they differed and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right path

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well these are my facts.. !

FIRST – Firm belief that all of them were revealed from Allah. Some of them were heard from Him from behind a veil, without there being any intermediary from among the angels. Some were conveyed by an angelic Messenger to a human Messenger. Some were written by Allah’s own Hand, as He says:

“It is not given to any human being that Allah should speak to him unless (it be) by Revelation, or from behind a veil, or (that) He sends a Messenger to reveal what He wills by His Leave. Verily, He is Most High, Most Wise” [Holy Quran 42:51]

“and to Moosa (Moses) Allah spoke directly” [Holy Quran 4:164]

And Allah said concerning the Tawraat (Torah):

“And We wrote for him on the Tablets the lesson to be drawn from all things and the explanation for all things” [Holy Quran 7:145]

SECOND – The Books that Allah has mentioned by name, we must believe in by name. These are the Books which Allah has named in the Quran, i.e., the Quran, the Tawraat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), the Zaboor (Psalms), and the Scriptures of Abraham and Moses.

Those which Allah has mentioned in general terms, we must believe in them in general terms, so we say concerning them what Allah and His Messenger have commanded us to say:

“…say: “I believe in whatsoever Allah has sent down of the Book [all the holy Books…]”

[Holy Quran 42:15]

THIRD – Believing whatever is true of what they say, such as what is said in the Quran, and whatever has not been altered or distorted in the previous Books.

FOURTH – Believing that Allah revealed the Quran as a witness over these Books and to confirm them, as Allah says:

“And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Muhaymin (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures)” [Holy Quran 5:48]

The Scholars said that “Muhaymin” means trustworthy and a witness over the Books that came before it, and confirming them, i.e., confirming whatever is true in them and rejecting whatever alterations, distortions and changes have occurred in them, and ruling that the previous rulings have been abrogated – i.e., they are no longer applicable – and that new rulings and laws have been promulgated. Hence all those who were following previous books and who have not turned on their heels should submit to it, as Allah says:

“And when it is recited to them, they say: We believe in it. Verily, it is the truth from our Lord. Indeed even before it we have been from those who submit themselves to Allah in Islam as Muslims” [Holy Quran 28:52-53]

It is obligatory for all the Muslims to follow the Quran both outwardly and inwardly, and to adhere to it, and give it its due, as Allah says:

“And this is a blessed Book (the Quran) which We have sent down, so follow it and fear Allah” [Holy Quran 6:155]

What is meant by adhering to the Quran and giving it its due is: regarding what it permits as permitted, regarding what it forbids as forbidden, obeying its commands, avoiding that which it prohibits, paying heed to its lessons, learning from its stories, understanding its clear and unambiguous texts, referring the exact meaning of its ambiguous texts to Allah, not overstepping its limits and defending it, whilst memorizing it, reciting it in a proper manner, pondering the meanings of its verses, reciting it in prayer night and day, being sincere towards it in all senses, and calling others to do likewise with understanding.

This belief will bear great fruit for a person, the most important of which is: 

  1.  Knowledge of Allah’s care for His slaves, for He has revealed to each people a Book by which they may be guided.

  2.  Knowledge of the wisdom of Allah in the laws which He has set out for each people, laws which are suited to their circumstances as Allah says:

“To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way” [Holy Quran 5:48].

  1.  Fulfilling the duty of giving thanks to Allah for this great blessing.

  2.  The importance of paying attention to the Quran, by reading it, pondering its meanings, understanding its meanings and acting accordingly.

And Allah knows best.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by fadi_ali: *

**FYI Four Books are said to be from ALLAH

  1. Turaat
  2. Zuboor
  3. Ingeel
  4. QURAN

**
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The Qur'an also refers to a scripture (without specifically naming it) that was given to Prophet Ibrahim (as) as in the verse:

"The scriptures of Ibrahim and Musa." (87:19)

Iqbal

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Jazak Allah Iqbal bhai.. check my above posting...

:)

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As an observer, the interesting thing about this to me is that none of the high-profile Female Muslim Guppies seem to be willing to refute this.

Do you accept that you are inferior? Is this just one more thing to rationalize?

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Stu, interesting that you bring that up, I've always found it baffling.

I've had a first hand experience of discussing with some females about a possible interpretation of some verses that wouldn't allow males to beat their spouses but they all refused to even consider the option!!

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It's rationalization pure and simple, much like the often quoted line "the hijab protects women's dignity." I don't say this to belittle anyones beliefs, but let's call a spade a spade. In Islam, women are taught that they are second-class citizens in every sense of the word.

While many religions certainly subscribe to this belief at some level (for example only men can be catholic priests etc..), none do so on this scale or so throroughly as far as I know. Wow.

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Women are not inferior in islam so get your facts straight. Women have certain jobs in islam and men have certain jobs. The reason why muslim women don`t respond is because they also know anti muslim comments such as yours are a waste of time and nothing but hatred against islam.

Stu your anti muslim dribble is getting to be boring and tiresome.

I suggest you renew your membership of KKK and take your frustrations elsewhere!

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Thanks every one for sharing the information

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Don't confuse KKK with Kaafir junior. I'm simply questioning some antiquated aspects of your faith. Why don't you put down the Gameboy and pick up a dictionary... then look up the word "subjugation"

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*Originally posted by Stu: *
In Islam, women are taught that they are second-class citizens in every sense of the word.
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First time i have paid much attention to this thread.
Stu, please expand on the above. Do you mean Islam or Muslim cultures?

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Fadi,

The title of your thread states that "women have less intelligence" according to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). However in your initial post it states, "It is misinterpreted this to imply that women are un-intelligent and stupid."

Sorry forgive me, which stance exactly are you arguing, (in your own words)? Thanks.

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Absurd header but nice read fadi.

I think the older people have enough sense to understand what you mean when you say inferior vs superior - it's a question of semantics in this case ... but they prefer to make an issue out of it. Whatever.

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Nadia- In your view, does Islam teach that women are less intelligent than men? If so, do you not view that as derogatory?

-Stu

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Does Islam teach that women are less intelligent? Quite the opposite, Stu. In Islam i have finally discovered my liberation. This is my view on it; let me start with chapter 49 of the Quran:

O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other. Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (one who is) the most righteous of you. {Verse 13}

The verse is addressed to not only all Muslims, but to all of humanity, irrespective of gender (or ethnicity). As such, it’s a universal declaration to all. The verse - explicity, directly - states that the “most honored” in the sight of Allah is the one who is the “most righteous”. As this verse is an address to ALL of humanity (manifestly, all of humanity includes females), therefore the right of anyone to be more or less honored in the sight of Allah belongs solely to the “most righteous” individual. Gender, ethnicity, intelligence or lack of - none of these matter. Righteousness is not a virtue that can be hijacked by, and solely for, males. The universal nature of this verse is testament to that. Therefore, (as an example) my brother cannot be more “honored” in the sight of Allah merely by the fact of being a male and i no less “honored” in Allah’s sight by being a female. He shall have to strive to improve himself (jihad) in order to, hopefully, attain that title - same goes for myself. As such, we are both equal.

Stu, you might find this piece, written by a Muslim male, more interesting. http://www.soundvision.com/Info/gender/equity3.asp