Re: Rangers kill Innocent Man in Karachi
If a purse snatcher deserves to be shot like this (unarmed and non threatening to security personals), then Malik and his gang deserves more based on his self-defined criterion. They have looted Billions and made people do such crimes on streets.
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i dont know if they r REALLY scared of ppl,or they think its easy to kill ppl now,as they can call the dead terrorist or daku!
even if they doubt any person who has given them athority to instantly kill ppl???
they think they'll get promotion or nishan e jurat sumthing??
but for how long will we witness,condem and count these incidents???
i never hear a single word from ghdari,the president,n the prime minister's comments show their trechary and stoned heart !!
are we gona sit n discuss this untill we will be one of them??
will u not ever stand for solution??
"the drop of blood from a muslim is more dear to me than the ka'abah and all that surrounds it" hadis e qudsi
**Three classes of men are cut off from the benediction of heaven- the oppressors, those who aid and abet oppression, those who tolerate oppression.
One can sleep after the death of one's child, but not under oppression.
The best form of justice is succouring the oppressed.
The best king is the one who stamps out oppression, and causes justice to come again.
The savage beast that mutilates and devours is to be preferred to a violent and oppressive governor.
The king who oppresses his subjects, will live to see them wish him dead.
The hour of vengeance by the oppressed is more terrible than the hour of the tyrant's oppression.
Shun to oppress No tyrant will breathe the odor of paradise.
When you meet a man oppressed, help him against the oppressor.
Whoever has pity on himself, oppresses not another.
He oppresses the right who abets injustice.
Whosoever oppresses will be oppressed.
Oppression and tyranny are the worse companions for hereafter.**
Re: Rangers kill Innocent Man in Karachi
If a purse snatcher deserves to be shot like this (unarmed and non threatening to security personals), then Malik and his gang deserves more based on his self-defined criterion. They have looted Billions and made people do such crimes on streets.
Very apt observation.
Kabhi kabhi saamney ki baat nazar nahi aati.
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If a purse snatcher deserves to be shot like this (unarmed and non threatening to security personals), then Malik and his gang deserves more based on his self-defined criterion. They have looted Billions and made people do such crimes on streets.
I neither wish to defend Rahman Malik nor rangers, but lets not downplay this "purse-snatcher", he was part of a gang of mobile snatchers and we know mobile snatchers are no "purse snatchers", other than that I agree with your verdict regarding Rahman Malik :D though it should be through proper justice system.
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After seeing the videos i want to say horrible things but it wont look good coming from me.
All i can say is i hope this is the last one of such killings and justice be done. :(
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Please someone kill this Guy too
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Ok who made the video thats the question?
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will u guys join protest??
Re: Rangers kill Innocent Man in Karachi
I am in no way justifying this cruel act by the rangers. This is a murder and the culprits should be prosecuted according the law. But there is more to it than the unprofessionalism of rangers in this story and it points out at bigger issues that are happening with law enforcement agencies in Karachi and the pressure that they face from city’s political force and other educated folks that back that pressure of that political party.
In the very beginning of the clip (that I saw yesterday about 4 hours from when it was first posted on a facebook page of a friend of mine who is a die hard fan of biggest political party that operates in the city and that person openly justifies bhatta khori and how youth is used by that party to collect bhatta), when this guy gets caught by the ranger in white plain clothe, his immediate reaction is to hide his face/identity as if he knew he is getting caught doing an act that he does not want to be associated with. It was later discovered that this guy was brother of a journalist and we can assume that he had at least some education and belonged to educated middle/lower middle class.
Then when they pull him aside, the guy says “Bhai Main tou Majboour houn, meri Majboouri thee” meaning he is trying to justify something that he knows he did wrong but he wants rangers to listen to his majboori.
As someone above me posted that this guy belongs to a gang and is known to have backing of MQM, was robbing some women in the park and rangers were informed of this and they caught him either running away from the scene or hiding.
Looking at it from rangers point of view, they come across people who do crimes like this all over the Karachi and once they are taken into custody, they call their political affiliations or their relatives who are in powerful positions to get them out of there and criminal goes without punishment and next day carries on with his crimes knowing that he will not have to face any consequences. Chances are that once in police station, a call was going to get made to the educated/middle class brother who happens to be a journalist who would have gotten him out or this kid was going to call someone from MQM and they would have gotten this kid out and very next day he would be doing exactly same thing.
Now the people who suffered from the hands from criminals like him, see that they report them to rangers/police, watch those people be taken away by rangers to police station (hoping that they are going behind the bars) and few days later they see the same criminal roaming around freely or even worst, get robbed by same criminal. The only thing that comes to those victims mind is that rangers are corrupt and they are taking bribes from this criminal and that is why this guy is robbing me again, next time they see that ranger’s mobile/vehicle, the pull him a side and burn his mobile/vehicle to take their anger out on him as according to them the criminal is free because of corruption on these group of rangers. If you are that ranger/policeman, how frustration situation is that? You did your job, caught the criminal, put him behind the bars and next day your vehicle got burned by people who, in your mind you helped a day before.
Once again, I am not justifying this murder and want these killers to be punished to the fullest. But I want to point out the bigger issue, that for lawlessness in Karachi, blame always goes to matric pass/fail police waala and they are always considered to be the scum of society but no one ever points out on how, when they do their job and catch the criminals, the political power of Karachi, shows the muscle of their educated middle class and get their foot soldiers back on street.
Re: Rangers kill Innocent Man in Karachi
If a purse snatcher deserves to be shot like this (unarmed and non threatening to security personals), then Malik and his gang deserves more based on his self-defined criterion. They have looted Billions and made people do such crimes on streets.
But malik is innoncent per Khalifa Zardari's shaheed's pen! :)
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is there any law against making REPEAT STUPID STATEMENTS? if there is one, Rehman Malik should be tried, found guilty and hanged in public :D
Re: Rangers kill Innocent Man in Karachi
I am in no way justifying this cruel act by the rangers. This is a murder and the culprits should be prosecuted according the law. But there is more to it than the unprofessionalism of rangers in this story and it points out at bigger issues that are happening with law enforcement agencies in Karachi and the pressure that they face from city’s political force and other educated folks that back that pressure of that political party.
In the very beginning of the clip (that I saw yesterday about 4 hours from when it was first posted on a facebook page of a friend of mine who is a die hard fan of biggest political party that operates in the city and that person openly justifies bhatta khori and how youth is used by that party to collect bhatta), when this guy gets caught by the ranger in white plain clothe, his immediate reaction is to hide his face/identity as if he knew he is getting caught doing an act that he does not want to be associated with. It was later discovered that this guy was brother of a journalist and we can assume that he had at least some education and belonged to educated middle/lower middle class.
Then when they pull him aside, the guy says “Bhai Main tou Majboour houn, meri Majboouri thee” meaning he is trying to justify something that he knows he did wrong but he wants rangers to listen to his majboori.
As someone above me posted that this guy belongs to a gang and is known to have backing of MQM, was robbing some women in the park and rangers were informed of this and they caught him either running away from the scene or hiding.
Looking at it from rangers point of view, they come across people who do crimes like this all over the Karachi and once they are taken into custody, they call their political affiliations or their relatives who are in powerful positions to get them out of there and criminal goes without punishment and next day carries on with his crimes knowing that he will not have to face any consequences. Chances are that once in police station, a call was going to get made to the educated/middle class brother who happens to be a journalist who would have gotten him out or this kid was going to call someone from MQM and they would have gotten this kid out and very next day he would be doing exactly same thing.
Now the people who suffered from the hands from criminals like him, see that they report them to rangers/police, watch those people be taken away by rangers to police station (hoping that they are going behind the bars) and few days later they see the same criminal roaming around freely or even worst, get robbed by same criminal. The only thing that comes to those victims mind is that rangers are corrupt and they are taking bribes from this criminal and that is why this guy is robbing me again, next time they see that ranger’s mobile/vehicle, the pull him a side and burn his mobile/vehicle to take their anger out on him as according to them the criminal is free because of corruption on these group of rangers. If you are that ranger/policeman, how frustration situation is that? You did your job, caught the criminal, put him behind the bars and next day your vehicle got burned by people who, in your mind you helped a day before.
Once again, I am not justifying this murder and want these killers to be punished to the fullest. But I want to point out the bigger issue, that for lawlessness in Karachi, blame always goes to matric pass/fail police waala and they are always considered to be the scum of society but no one ever points out on how, when they do their job and catch the criminals, the political power of Karachi, shows the muscle of their educated middle class and get their foot soldiers back on street.
you are right on many levels ... but wrong on one key element ... justice should not be served one the road ... no matter how big a criminal , GET HIM IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM .... and let the lawmakers decide .... if they release criminals , dont vote for the lawmakers , kick them out of their mehals ... But average tom,duffer and harry , taking law into their hands .... NOT ACCEPTABLE ...
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What protest is this , please can you share details?
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Again a protest. Yaar give us a break. Traffic Jams due to Dharna / Protest are not solution to any problem. Her koi apni siyasat ki dukaan chamkata hai.
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he kept on saying" hospital pohancha do yaar" ... and they didnt take him right away!! ... im really speechless!! ... alfaaz nahi mil rehe k is inicdent ko kaise condemn kia jaaye!! ...
jeb dilun se kauf-e- Khuda chala jaaye tu loog isi tarhaan zaalim hojaate hen!!
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he kept on saying" hospital pohancha do yaar" ... and they didnt take him right away!! ... im really speechless!! ... alfaaz nahi mil rehe k is inicdent ko kaise condemn kia jaaye!! ...
jeb dilun se kauf-e- Khuda chala jaaye tu loog isi tarhaan zaalim hojaate hen!!
aur, Allah kaa farmaan hai k agar qaum apnii ijtimaa'ii zimmedaariyaaN poorii nahiiN kartiiN to Allah un par zaalim HukmaraaN musallat kar detaa hai
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Again a protest. Yaar give us a break. Traffic Jams due to Dharna / Protest are not solution to any problem. Her koi apni siyasat ki dukaan chamkata hai.
So what is the solution, kindly wo bi bata dain bi ....
khud kuch kerna nai , jo kerna chata hai , us ko discourage kerna hai ... if revolution doesnt come like this , how else do you reckon the people's voice will be heard? leedraan-e-pakistan have shut their ears and eyes ...
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aur, Allah kaa farmaan hai k agar qaum apnii ijtimaa'ii zimmedaariyaaN poorii nahiiN kartiiN to Allah un par zaalim HukmaraaN musallat kar detaa hai
TRUE khalil ...
tonite again .. we Pakistanis are goona sleep with a heavy heart! ... Ya Allah mere watan pe rehem kere!! or zalimun ko unko zulm ki siza mile!! ... they might get away in this world, lakin aagey tu hisaab dena hoga!!
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FIR registered, inquiry launched against officers involved in youth’s murder: DG Rangers
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TRUE khalil ...
tonite again .. we Pakistanis are goona sleep with a heavy heart! ... Ya Allah mere watan pe rehem kere!! or zalimun ko unko zulm ki siza mile!! ... they might get away in this world, lakin aagey tu hisaab dena hoga!!
**u r most welcome...du'aa ke saath saath davaa kii bhii ab zaroorat hai...'allaamah Iqbaal en farmaayaa thaa:
tum ho aapas men Ghazab-naak, vo aapas meN raHeem!
tum Khataa-kaar o Khataa-beeN, vo Khataa-posh o kareem!
chaahte sab haiN k hoN auj-e-suraiyaa pe muqeem
pahle vaisa koii paidaa to kare zarb-e-kaleem
taKht-e-faGhfoor bhii unkaa thaa, sareer-e-kai bhii
yuN hii b aateN haiN, k tum meN vo jamee'at hai bhii?
yahaN vo se muraad saHaaba-e-karaam haiN
aur
haath par haath dhare mun tazir-e-fardaa ho!
aur iskaa solution bhii pesh kiyaa:
'aql hai terii sipar, 'ishq hai shamsheer terii
mere darvai'sh! Khilaafat hai jahaaN-geer terii
maa-sivaa Allah ke liye aag hai takbeer terii
tu musalmaaN ho to taqdeer hai tadbeer terii
kii MoHammad [saws] se vafaa tum ne to ham tere haiN
yeh jahaaN cheez hai kia, lauH o qalam tere haiN
yahaN MoHammad [saws] se muraad "Qur'aan aur Sunnat" kii rassii ko mazbootii se thaamne ke haiN.**