Rana Naveed becoming a liability for Pakistan?

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Rana's level of confidence showed in his fielding when he was constantly fumbling and while bowling spraying the ball all over the wicket.

But he was our best ODI bowler last year and hopefully he will shrugg off this bad phase and come out on top. Right now, the toughest decision for management would be whether to stick with him or blood Sami in. A tough call.

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If Sami is the replacement then I am happy. :D
What happend to Rao?
All Telgu Indian thougt there is Telgu 'Rao' playing for pak. They are disappointed. :D

By the way, I dont see funguy on KK these days.... I miss those sachin bashing thread.

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sachin :grumpy:

rana needs to be rested and counselled. hes a good bowler but these pitches are not the kind he would take wickets on even if wasnt bowling short and wide. matches like these will only make it worse for him.

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You are relly itiching for Sachin bashing, so here goes. Sachin fell just short of his century today and India won. Had he made his century India would have lost. History lesson no 1. :D

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I knew it.someone will tell this. But this needs a new thread the way Funguy does. Please open a thread for this.

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He seems to old for the job

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bas..yahi comment baaqi tha..

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Is this comment for Rana or Tendulkar? :expressionless:

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well he made pakistan win series last year, give him time

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Well, I have been thinking about this idea in relation to our team performance. Reading the paragraph might seem a bit of a roller-coaster ride. In any case, please provide your feedback.

Pitches in Pakistan, absolutely batting paradises, since Day 1. Days of Imran, Wasim/Waqar, and now Inzamam/Akhtar. There is a general expectation of witnessing complete belter of surfaces during the games on our turfs. The theory that surrounds our batting is such that (and along the lines of) we need to perform outside of the sub-continent in order to "really" prove our worth. Younis's pileup at Lahore and Faislabad during the test series didn't help him one bit, as he was sent back in the pavilion to join in our loverboy Butt, on a seaming surface at that. A short example, one could say. The point being made here is, there is much more importance and significance of performance being evaluated in the pitches of Australia, South Africa and West Indies. Granted that a certain player might "prove his worth" on certain home grounds and during certain series (such as Malik completely failing in the opening slot during the English series, while scoring back-to-back centuries during the current ODI's. Arguably, his position of batting order might come under a microscope), but eventually, they all have to perform well, and we expect them to do so, in every single match (Again, emphasis on pitches outside of the sub-continent).

That is so far for the batting part. Now, in bowling department, albeit one could argue that it is hard-enough bowling already in such conditions when you have the likes of Akhtar and Dhoni smacking the ball all over the park, one should learn and manage himself to strive strongly in such conditions, and I don't agree with this theory. Most probably I am missing something here (please do correct my thinking process), but my understanding is, playing on seaming wickets will result in every doodh wala's and golay gunday wala's ball to swing sideways and seam at the same time. One could say that is true, however, it also opens a floodgate of opportunities for fast and spin bowlers, alike, and paves way for more prospects to demonstrate their qualities and skills in a more appropriate manner (which, effectlvely and permanently, removes the "belter pitches" from the equation, hence, we now have seaming pitches in sub-continent as well as in the rest of the world).

If the above conditions are true, which means that our batting area needs to click very heavily, and from all four corners of the pendulum outside of the sub-continent, and our bowling needs such surfaces in order to be effective, why not just go ahead and at least give an effort of creating a seaming wicket? I know, I know, it will die out at the end of Day 2, but still, why not force our batsman to practice in such conditions, on home soil, so that when they get their round-way tickets to the outside world, they are in full preparation to fire all blazes? Plus, having 'FAST AND BOUNCY' pitches will ensure that we have the cream of the crop bowlers, who are experienced, organized, and have an idea as to what does it take to generate a wicket in such conditions. In conclusion, both batting, and our bowling department, to say the least, are provided a base (middle ground) to start on. From thereon, we can improvise as necessary.

This is straight from the top of my head. Some things might not make sense, but overall, is this idea effective/ineffective? What will be the consequences and aftermath of implementing such a strategy?

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I'm just saying that he looks like he's approaching 50. I have no idea how old he really is or if his age affects his performance.

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he just needs confidence to go through this bad patch,he has bowled excellently since the time he joined the team

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Three bad games on the trot, surely Rana can't complain if he loses his place to Sami now. It's not as if he has been unlucky or anything, just plain bad bowling and it doesn't look like its going to get any better.

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Yep, short pitched deliveries at slower pace (on flat pitches) while giving width to batsmen are nothing but gifts.

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rana has been one of the best odi bowlers over the last year. he will bounce back Inshallah, but captaan bhai is right, he is banging it short, in india last year on extremely deaf flat pitches he was succesful because he pitched it up and swung in both ways!

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Chandler.Bing Bhai,

Kiya baat kahi hai,
let me remind Guppies,

Tendulker has been there
Akhter has been there
Afridi has been there
Moyo has been there
Sehwag Has been there
Yuvi has been there
Irfan has been there
Ganguly has been there and is still there
this is only India/Pakistan list, I could go on and on and on.

But today we are all singing their tunes, like you very aptly said Chadte Suraj ke pujari.

If I were rana I would say,

Chalte hai woh bhi hum se tevar badel badel ke,
jinko sikhaya humne chalna sambhal sambhal ke,

Aejaz

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Ha Ha Ha Captain1 Bhai,

you made my day with that comment:D

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Wah Aejaz Bhai wah … muqarar muqarar

I think my decision to follow GS-KK during the series instead the series itself on TV or any other Media seems to have paid off …

kya kya kalaam sune’nay ko miltey hain :hehe:

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He's in bad form. It happens, just last year he made the ICC world ODi x1. 2 games dont mean he's lost it.

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Janab Zero_one Bhai,

Yeh tou aap ki zarra nawazi hai, waise jis sher ki tarif ker rahe hain woh maine ne nahi padha hai, lekin yeh dekhte hue ke aap ko pasand aya, usi ghazal se ek aur sher arz hai, umeed kerta hou aap kou aur Dhobi Bhai dono kou yeh sher pasand ayega.

Pehla sher sun ker agar Rana ke critics khamoosh na hue, tou Rana Saheb nahi Inshallah main yeh kahunga.

arz kiya hai,

Bistar ki silwato se yeh mahsoos hou raha hai,
toda hai dum kisi ne kerwat badel badel ke.

Aejaz