Ramadhan gift to Dutch Muslims from a fellow Muslim

I hope that the muslims there can ride this one out with minimal harm

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/08/dutch.bomb.ap/index.html

Dutch Muslim school attacked
Police say bomb linked to murder of filmmaker

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) – A suspected bomb has blown the front door off a Muslim elementary school in a southern Dutch town and shattered windows across the street, days after a suspected Muslim radical killed a Dutch filmmaker, police said.

Television news footage showed the burnt-out entrance of the school, which was empty at the time of the attack at around 3:30 a.m. Monday (0230GMT). There were no reports of injuries.

Police suspected it was related to the murder last week of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh by a suspected Islamic radical, said spokesman Cees Dekkers in Eindhoven, about 120 kilometers (about 75 miles) south of the Dutch capital Amsterdam.

The school sustained substantial damage inside, he said.

The Tarieq Ibnu Zyad Islamic school, said to have links with a mosque that has allegedly been a gathering place for radicals, also suffered a minor attack a year ago. Dekkers said police had visited Islamic schools in the city, but had not decided on additional security measures.

Eindhoven Mayor Alexander Sakkers was meeting later with parents of students. “It is essential that we stick together,” he told the NOS television network. “One single person who pulls off such an idiot act … should not have the result that our society goes to pot in this way.”

Van Gogh’s killing sparked a series of attacks over the weekend, including two attempts to burn down mosques. Dutch Interior Minister Johan Remkes said Van Gogh’s death should not be blamed on the Muslim community as a whole.

Eight suspected Islamic extremists have been arrested in connection with Tuesday’s slaying of Theo van Gogh, who earlier this year released a film critical of how women are treated under Islam. Among those arrested was a 26-year-old accused of killing the filmmaker, identified only as Mohammed Bouyeri.

Although mainstream Muslim groups condemned the killing, it has caused an outpouring of anger in the Netherlands.

Vandals threw red paint Saturday night on a center in Amsterdam that aids immigrants, many of them Muslim. The agency, called the Emcemo Center, is located several blocks from the spot where Van Gogh was killed, and its director, Abdou Menebhi, told local television station AT5 that he believed the vandals were racists.

In the town of Huizen, police arrested two men they say were caught preparing to ignite a fire at the An-Nasr mosque Friday night, national news service NOS reported. A mosque in the city of Breda sustained minor fire damage in another reported arson attempt.

A small fire was also set at a mosque in Utrecht, police said, and a pig’s head was left in a plastic bag outside a mosque in Amsterdam.

NOS reported Sunday that pamphlets with the image of a pig and a slur against Muslims were circulating in Rotterdam.

Van Gogh, a distant relative of the famous painter Vincent van Gogh, released “Submission” in August. The film was criticized as insensitive by some Muslim groups.

Van Gogh was shot while riding his bicycle and then stabbed and had his throat cut. His killer left a five-page note quoting from the Quran and threatening more attacks. Prosecutors believe the killer was part of a terrorist group with international links.

u just cant educate these stupid westerners to differentiate between innocent and guilty people....

blinded really by hatred, jumping up at any excuse to take out their hatred against muslims....

one jackass to deliver what he thought was justice and kills someone.
a number of jackasses decide to deliver whatthey thought was justice and attack mosques.

I guess their is a glut of jackasses.

Europe has always been much more reactionary to immigrants they perceive as a threat. Unlike America, where even after 9/11, the level of violence against Muslims was limited in scope.

Here, the murder of one person, however tragic, has resulted in increased vandalism, and now a bomb attack against Muslim targets.

that'll teach them. Long live LePen

Madhanee back in it...You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him.

Even thats fruitless.

The murder of the director & the bombing are both unfortunate & uncalled for. Sad but true that it is very easy to act like an ass.

yea heard abt that Director been killed n now this . aight man name thier finest director now so we can keeep it on flow :D

     nomore humanity man Bs every where !!! STAB N LIVE is the rule

hey lusi i dont want to controdict u yar . but ur topic name sounds like u think k its the guy's wrong who killed that director . is that rite????

The guy WAS wrong to have murdered the director. I do certainly belive that the director deserved to die, but execution is the responsibility of an Islamic state after carrying out a trial by Shariah law, and not the responsibility of the individual on the street.

And I disagree with Mad_S, as the core Islamic value of justice requires that any 'attack' be responded with same if it serves the purpose of peace or else be forgiven to show higher moral grounds. " ... but do not transgress. Surely, Allah loves not the transgressors."

The best response would have been if the Muslim community in Netherlands had produced a movie countering the director's arguments or at least produced publications refuting the claims.

Exactly AJ.

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And I disagree with Mad_S, as the core Islamic value of justice requires that any 'attack' be responded with same if it serves the purpose of peace or else be forgiven to show higher moral grounds. " ... *but do not transgress. Surely, Allah loves not the transgressors.
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The best response would have been if the Muslim community in Netherlands had produced a movie countering the director's arguments or at least produced publications refuting the claims.
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The gupshup mullahs have spoken and don't agree with you. Surely, you can't know more than our beloved all knowing mullahs can you?

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Originally posted by ahmadjee: *
And I disagree with Mad_S, as the core Islamic value of justice requires that any 'attack' be responded with same if it serves the purpose of peace or else be forgiven to show higher moral grounds. " ... *but do not transgress. Surely, Allah loves not the transgressors.
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The best response would have been if the Muslim community in Netherlands had produced a movie countering the director's arguments or at least produced publications refuting the claims.
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Totally agree with you AJ. Violence seems to be the easy solution to all problems these days. I totally disagree with this cop out and pro-violence mindset.

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that'll teach them. Long live LePen
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Its at times like this I wish Aurangzeb had done his job properly.

Have a nice day.

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Its at times like this I wish Aurangzeb had done his job properly.

Have a nice day.
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Whose Aurengzeb? The Mogul king?

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*Originally posted by Fita: *

Its at times like this I wish Aurangzeb had done his job properly.

Have a nice day.
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Well he tried....but you know there are always a few rats, that manage to survive no matter what u do.

I dont agree with both MS and AJ.

I do partly agree that okay maybe the proper authority in these matters had to step in and take action....

IF

this was taking place in a muslim country. How the hell can u just kill someone on the street... OR ... get him arrested and "try" him in the court for saying or doing or making a film that he wanted to??? in his own country, where he did nothing wrong, he was merely practicing his freedom.

doesnt make sense at all. If a kafir goes around cursing the prophet in makkah while there is no islam there, and the prophet is in medina.... hes doing nothing wrong in his own country,,, if u have problems, all u can do is protest.. legally speaking, there is no case... why are u gona try him?? and where? and by who? cos he did something bad that the muslims dont agree to, in his non-muslim country?? i dont think so. you live in a non-muslim country, u live with wat goes on there. you dont like wat goes on there, or it hurts ur islamic sentiments... all u can do is protest peacefully.

same goes with AJ... i agree with the fact that forgiveness in this case was a better option IF muslims were in the power to do so... and u didnt acknowledge the fact that there isnt really a case. its a non muslim country , the "core islamic value of justice" cant really be officially applied to a non muslim in a non muslim country. so u dont really have a choice of fogiving or killing them. you are a minority in a country who has welcomed u to live with em, u have no choice but to simply protest or condemn the point of view of the director while presenting ur own argument, thats it.

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Well he tried....but you know there are always a few rats, that manage to survive no matter what u do.
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Yeah, he tried his best. For that he should be praised.

Haha, and the word 'rat' is so appropriate. In terms of character AND appearance.

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Originally posted by ahmadjee: *
And I disagree with Mad_S, as the core Islamic value of justice requires that any 'attack' be responded with same if it serves the purpose of peace or else be forgiven to show higher moral grounds. " ... *but do not transgress. Surely, Allah loves not the transgressors.
"

The best response would have been if the Muslim community in Netherlands had produced a movie countering the director's arguments or at least produced publications refuting the claims.
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So you think a solution would be for Muslims to throw morals out the window and do something as pathetic as the director.

Making another movie to degrade the directors people and beliefs would be equally wrong.

And how were the Muslims to go out and make a movie and who the heck would give it any publicity? Are you kidding?

He shouldnt have been killed, maybe a jail sentence or something would have been sufficient.