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Re: Radicalism Re-defined
I know its long winded..............
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just like there is an inherent fallacy in the definition of radical and non radical, there is falalcy in turning that to a simple appeaser and non appeaser role also.
what is the source of this? or did you come up with this crap yourself :)
by your logic of , if a person has a vote he is responsible for actions of his cmndr in chief and thus a target, how do u know that the person voted, how do you now that person voted for someone else, how do you know that person had the ability to vote when voting took place. Its pure BS. type of stuff extremeists conjure up to try and legitimize their actions against civilians.
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I can't stand this kind of hatred, I can see y people go crazy these days. The only good muslim is one that doesn't follow his religion and does everything a westerner would do...that is the perception. What the idiots don't know is that their is a root cause for everything...to them Palestinians r just blood thirsty terrorists, Israeli blood is worth more than those savages. And how about the "insurgents" they are just terrorists, its nice to know that if sum1 invaded U.S.A or sumthing, all the people would sit in their homes and do nothing.
**** it we r evil, we shud be killed, sum1 produce a mass genocide, I'm sick of people thinking Islam is the enemy, the general public think this, thats why they support their government who are out to benefit themselves, their is no liberation, they want puppet regimes that will do anything for them. And people consider them liberators, or people with high moral ground.
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well that perception is wrong and its not just being promoted by western media outlets. I mean we are quick to jump on teh statement of you are with us or against us, but in essence weo do the same, either you are some appeaser mod muslim liberal drunkard or druggie or you are a mard e momin.
Fact of the matter is that there is much more variety and many more groups..by making tw, either this or that, its easy to show anyone disgareeing with one's stance as either an extremists, or as some sellout.
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^There is another opinion, if your not a terrorist, you are not a Muslim, Osama bin laden is the best example of a real muslim on the planet. I mean everywhere you go their are saying obscene things about our God and our prophet on a regular basis...I mean it is so depressing...and makes me so mad, you have no clue. And despite how they appear to you, most people hold the same opinion.
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Ha ha and ha…
AS I can see you have just picked one point out of three. BS ..Hummm thats a strong word Mr fraudia , I am not part of “homeland security” so dont lose your calm.
people like you who have not voted for their comander-in-chief, still pay taxes , and those taxes are used as funds to keep the war machine alive, yes whether the taxes go to feeding the poor in ethiopia or as a millitary aid package to Israel.
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^Building up for Iran as well.
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so one can try and change people's perceptions not do things to further solodifu their misconceptions by lashing out in anger and frustration. In the end there are many in the west who would never be able to seperate a practising muslim from an extremist, and at the same time there would be many in muslim countries who would never be able to seperate an anti-extremist view from an anti-muslim view.
so what do we do, just give up? or do we try to make a difference to whatever level.
Now as far as onbscene things about god and prophet, its only idiots who are doing it, I read it too, I see it too. One can try to change those ppl or if that is nt possible, which often is not, try to counter their arguments and to offer better info to ppl looking for info.
rest is up to individual ppl and how able they are to challenge their preconceived notions or to be able to have a balanced view rather than a concieted bigoted view.
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Convert…? whats the problem?
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^kya?
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Ohh Meri Jaan…
There is no Extremist …its part of our religion…If you want to refute the facts thats up to you …
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Is that point right or wrong? answer that..so whether i picked one point out of three of three hundred, the fact of the matter is that that one point is wrong, and that one point is part and parcel of your theory or cut and paste..
prove that one correct first, then I may waste my time on your other flights of fantasy arguments
you are not part of homeland security..maybe I am 
BS is a strng word and I am using a strong word to strongly oppose an incorrect half baked perspective.
by that token ppl in muslim countries buy products that are made by western companies or buy products from local companies but those companies pay rolyalty to western companies who then pay taxes which are used as funds to keep the war machine alive.
I mean how far would you go to find guilt? is there a point where culpability s no longer a factor
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acha what r the facts, feel free to write them.
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really, ppl doing drive bys are not extremists? people killing others just becaue they are of a different sect thats not extremist?
yep i will defintely refute such ‘facts’
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There are many other “Non-millitant” religions, why not convert to them? You want to live in the west don’t you? Don’t you want to rejoice their . freedom of speech, good income, 1000 times better living standards, no nepotism, no bribery, no joblessness, hell I would want to.
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i agree
its imperative we have a strong iran, a strong pakistan, a strong syria, a strong afghanistan
then we can look at what radicalism is or isnt
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Why dont u write the facts u claimed buddy?
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abha gimme the facts that say Islam is a militant religion...u hate us...i know...but y dont u write sum facts that say Islam is a militant religion, anything other than you attack, oppress, occupy us, we will attack you. In islam, nothing else.
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I did not talk about sectarian shiet , this thread is not about that , so don’t bring it here.