Racism within Pakistanis

[Mabrook]

Re: Racism within Pakistanis

^Someone on GS is memon...

[Monk]

Re: Racism within Pakistanis

she is memoniii -- like baby-she-sheep
meeeehhhhhhhhh mmeeehhhhhnnnhhhhh

[tipusulatn]

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

** i like ur conclusion and i think there has to be a better understanding and mjutual co-operation, its just matter of time when both parties will realize that.

bro, it wasn't an immigration issue. i was within the regulations to be allowed in coz i was just transitting thru Karachi. they denied and gave me hard time and i could tell from their dirty looks that they didn't like me because i was of Indian descent. it was so obvious!** :( its SAD though that they treat indian muslims as their enemy ... we are NOT!

I believe it is not because of your Indian decedent, it is more to do with your country of Birth India on your passport.

I applied for Indian visa, normal procedure is 2 working days, but i am told by Indian High Comm that since my place of birth is Pakistan, it would take few months for my visa to process.

Even if one would show up to the airport (with visa waiver passport) i am sure the immigration officer would still reluctant to let one in (please you understand even having a visa is not guarantee of the entry).

I

[Dubaiwali]

@Rasmalaii

ohh you know if someone is memon, and amongst memons there are soooo many different types, theirs bantva (batawala) memons, jethpur memons, and so many more. They all speak different dialects and bantva girls don’t marry other guys besides bantva, but bantva guys can marry other memon types of girls because the kids will become bantva and take after their dad lollll OMG when I hear memons tell me this stuff, I’m like whyyy what is wrong with you guys. They act all religious and then they segregate amongst their own selves. Most memons are rich, and sadly the ones here are pretty snobbish about it. I went once to a memon dawat, and all the girls were sitting at the table talking about brand named stuff they bought, and I felt so out of place because I could careless about brand name purses, shoes, etc. The whole night they discussed money and how they spent it, and gossiped about other memon girls who didn’t show up at the party. Not all are stingy lol However the few memons I know, they actually are :-/

I am half memon:chai:

I did get some memon traits, the ones you described. I guess you have to because to fit in with your family members and other memon community. I do detest it and detest what I have become because of adopting bad habits from them.

[Khumar]

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let it go sara. it's something that is now part of our culture. just that some people are not able to get above it.

[CM]

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I find it interesting that people don't accept that the world is generally racist. Regardless of nationality or ethnicity. Every community including Pakistan has the same degree of racism. What they don't have that we Pakistanis do is the victim complex that everything about our society is bad and we are the worst. That form of complex is uniquely Pakistani.

[Silaaj]

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

i have...i'm a canadian of indian descent. once i went to Pakistan and arrived in Karachi on a PIA flight from Toronto. Since my final destination was Delhi, i was supposed to be put in a Hotel for my connecting flight to Delhi the next day. before i left Toronto i had checked with PIA and Pakistani Consulate in Toronto and they all said that i didn't need a visa. this immigration officer gave me all the hassle and refused to let me in. in the meantime, my uncle had come to pick me up who is a high ranking public servant [IG Police]. when he learnt about the situation he walked into the area i was sitting and waiting and it was funny to see that the same people who refused me entry were wagging their tail behind him...offcourse, i was allowed to go into the city with honor...thanks to my uncle haha

I dont see how the act of the immigration officer was racist. You did not have a visa, hence, could not be allowed entry into Pakistan. For the kind of stopover you had, you required a transit visa. The travel agent and Pak consulate in toronto misguided you, and your IG uncle misused his power and authority to gain you entry.

[zayma]

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pakistanis r at times racist say ur a pathan but ur dark skinned u tell some1 that u r pathan and they laugh and say oh ur kala/kali so how can u be isnt that sterotyping a certain group of people
personally i have experienced racism from other pakistanis likee i have a friend who is mirpuri her mother wasnt best pleased that i come to her house "because she is a pathan and god knows how they are like"

[lipstick]

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i've never experienced anything like this directly but where i live mirpuri's get a lot of flack for being 'backwards' especially in school and college i remember other paki kids teasing mirpuri kids for the way they talk and accusing them of being backwards

[Puchi_Kuchi]

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If one pakistani claims superiority over another because of their dialect, caste, or area from which they originate from then they are seriously deluded and insecure. Nobody is superior than another due to some proffession which was held by their great great great grandfather 200 yrs ago..

It's what you are NOW that matter, how you treat others that matters and what kind of law abiding pakistani you really are. Our religion tells us to stay away from this nonsense, and rightly so.

[Decent_6Chora]

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Well we (Pakistanis that is) are raciest to quite an extent. We call African Americans "Kaley", we call Caucasians "Gorey". I still remember we used to make fun of West Indian cricket team by calling them "Kalooo Dewaney". When our mom's go out to look for BAHOO, they look for "goree chitee" bahoo, when moms go out to look for DAMAD, they look for "same bradary damad" (in many cases) and so on ...... One way or another, these are all different forms of racism

Its pity that we point fingers to other people when we are discriminated but we do it every day without even noticing it.

[Puchi_Kuchi]

@Decent_6Chora

Well we (Pakistanis that is) are raciest to quite an extent. We call African Americans "Kaley", we call Caucasians "Gorey". I still remember we used to make fun of West Indian cricket team by calling them "Kalooo Dewaney". When our mom's go out to look for BAHOO, they look for "goree chitee" bahoo, when moms go out to look for DAMAD, they look for "same bradary damad" (in many cases) and so on ...... One way or another, these are all different forms of racism

Its pity that we point fingers to other people when we are discriminated but we do it every day without even noticing it.

I actually don't do that. First of all if i was looking for a bahu the last thing i would be concerned about would be if she was 'kaali' or 'gori'

I also take care in how I speak about other races. If we ourselves don't change and carry on with this offensive, kaala or gora thing then our kids will follow us. I would never ever want to hear these things from my children.

[Rasmalaii]

@Aisha Dubaiwali

I am half memon:chai:

I did get some memon traits, the ones you described. I guess you have to because to fit in with your family members and other memon community. I do detest it and detest what I have become because of adopting bad habits from them.

I know what you mean, the memon girls I know, they dislike some of the qualities too, but they also want to fit in and not be left out, so they go with the flow.

[Rasmalaii]

@Aisha Dubaiwali

I am half memon:chai:

I did get some memon traits, the ones you described. I guess you have to because to fit in with your family members and other memon community. I do detest it and detest what I have become because of adopting bad habits from them.

I know what you mean, the memon girls I know, they dislike some of the qualities too, but they also want to fit in and not be left out, so they go with the flow.

[Decent_6Chora]

@Puchi_Kuchi

I actually don't do that. First of all if i was looking for a bahu the last thing i would be concerned about would be if she was 'kaali' or 'gori'

I also take care in how I speak about other races. If we ourselves don't change and carry on with this offensive, kaala or gora thing then our kids will follow us. I would never ever want to hear these things from my children.

I am talking about norms ...... of course there are exceptions ....

[Masi_Museebtay]

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

i have...i'm a canadian of indian descent. once i went to Pakistan and arrived in Karachi on a PIA flight from Toronto. Since my final destination was Delhi, i was supposed to be put in a Hotel for my connecting flight to Delhi the next day. before i left Toronto i had checked with PIA and Pakistani Consulate in Toronto and they all said that i didn't need a visa. this immigration officer gave me all the hassle and refused to let me in. in the meantime, my uncle had come to pick me up who is a high ranking public servant [IG Police]. when he learnt about the situation he walked into the area i was sitting and waiting and it was funny to see that the same people who refused me entry were wagging their tail behind him...offcourse, i was allowed to go into the city with honor...thanks to my uncle haha

Since you are not Pakistani, so technically you don't qualify fot the 'racism within Pakistanis' thing. =)

And well your uncle abused his powers which makes him/you no better than others.. about wagging the tails, I am sure he does the same around his seniors. Thats how it rolls, doesn't it. =)

[Rainbow09]

@CM

I find it interesting that people don’t accept that the world is generally racist. Regardless of nationality or ethnicity. Every community including Pakistan has the same degree of racism. What they don’t have that we Pakistanis do is the victim complex that everything about our society is bad and we are the worst. That form of complex is uniquely Pakistani.

I agree, well said :k:

[happyheart]

@Rainbow09

I agree, well said :k:

Wah CM shooting firepower today!! Well done.

[Sarsaparilla]

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

i like ur conclusion and i think there has to be a better understanding and mjutual co-operation, its just matter of time when both parties will realize that.

bro, it wasn't an immigration issue. i was within the regulations to be allowed in coz i was just transitting thru Karachi. they denied and gave me hard time and i could tell from their dirty looks that they didn't like me because i was of Indian descent. it was so obvious! :( its SAD though that they treat indian muslims as their enemy ... we are NOT!

Aap bilul theek kah rahe hon. Yes afsos ki baat hain ke Hindustani mussalmanoka haal Pakistan me itna bura hota hain. Aisa tau sirf Hindustani Hinduonko hona chahiye.

[Mabrook]

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Sara when u talk abt racism within pakistanis so wats ur intake on the other threads when abcds and fobs r in "jung"? i was amazed at the Marrying int'l student thread. look how much hatered some of these posters hav for guys in pak or those studying abroad. y these girls think they r most superior just coz their parents gav them birth in U.S or Canada?