Race Riots Spreads Across Paris Suburbs After Death of Muslim Boys!

**PARIS, Nov. 2 – Clashes between angry youths and French police spread to at least six Paris suburbs Tuesday night, with police firing tear gas and rubber-coated bullets at street fighters who lobbed Molotov cocktails and burned cars and trash bins.

The clashes began last Thursday after two African Muslim teenagers were electrocuted to death in the northeastern suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois while trying to evade police. On Sunday, as the street fighting continued, a police tear gas canister landed inside a mosque during Ramadan prayers, further inflaming the impoverished communities.**

**Adel Benna tried to put himself in the shoes of his shy 17-year-old brother, Ziad, and two teenage friends who scaled a wall and leapt into the cables of a power substation last Thursday evening – willing to face electrocution rather than the French police officers they were trying to evade in this impoverished Paris suburb.

“Young people don’t just throw themselves into an electrical current,” Benna said Tuesday, his voice trembling in anger. “They looked behind them and saw something that made them so terrified, so desperate, they did it out of absolute fear. I hate the police. They are responsible for my brother’s death.”**

Ziad Benna and his friend Bouna Traore, 15, sons of working-class African Muslim immigrants, were both electrocuted. A third youth survived.

It set off five days of rioting, firebombing and car burning that continued here Tuesday.

Many residents were outraged Sunday night when a police tear gas canister was thrown into a local mosque during prayers for Ramadan, the Muslim holy month. An estimated 700 coughing and panicked worshipers ran for the doors.

Residents accused the police of deliberately attacking the mosque. French officials said they were investigating the incident, which occurred during police skirmishes with youths near the place of worship, a white concrete box of a building attached to a small grocery.

The violence focused criticism on Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, a prominent candidate in the 2007 presidential stakes. The week before the youths’ deaths, he had announced “a war without mercy” on crime in the Paris suburbs.

Sarkozy, who has also called for affirmative action programs, fumbled in his initial response to the violence. He at first referred to the two dead boys as juvenile delinquents who were wanted in connection with a robbery, then amended that to say they were suspected of vandalizing a construction site.

On Monday, during a visit to the nearby police station, he said the youths were “not criminals” and had no criminal records, and promised a full investigation so that “everyone will know the truth.”

“My brother paid the price of zero tolerance with his life,” Adel Benna, brother of one of the dead youths, said in an interview, referring to Sarkozy’s anti-crime mantra.

According to Adel Benna, his brother and two other friends had been playing a game of pickup soccer and were on their way home to break the daily Ramadan fast last Thursday when they spotted a police checkpoint. Officers there were demanding identity papers, a common tactic in the high-crime neighborhoods of the Paris suburbs.

Witnesses told the family that police began chasing the boys, according to Benna and other relatives. French officials have given several versions of the incident, with some officials saying that although the youths were not pursued by police, they believed they were being chased, and panicked. The teenager who survived, the son of Turkish immigrants, is undergoing surgery for severe burns, according to family members.

In a memorial march for the two youths over the weekend, a group of friends and neighbors wore white T-shirts emblazoned with the French words for “Dead for nothing.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/02/AR2005110200492_2.html
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France the so called nation of freedom shows its intolerant face yet again, if its not banning women from wearing headscarves its treating its minorities like criminals!**

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PARIS, Nov. 2 -- Clashes between angry youths and French police spread to at least six Paris suburbs Tuesday night, with police firing tear gas and rubber-coated bullets at street fighters who lobbed Molotov cocktails and burned cars and trash bins.

And Delhi remained calm after the bomb blasts...what is this? Patience & difference of cultures......

/\/\/\It is not off topic

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Chirac is a brilliant leader… :rolleyes:

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alos there was a clash between pakistanis and blacks in uk what is happening europe?

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These types are riots are bringing bad name to Muslims. Muslims in Europe should be peaceful citizens.

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Any idea why police was throwing tear gas? sorry couldn’t read whole article.

EDIT: they were asked for ID papers and they ran away for not having them ??? :konfused:

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1) tear gas in a mosque is a lame thing
2) we dont know IF the runners were so fearful that they intentionally electrocuted temselves, or whether they did not know what they were doing and got electrocuted anyways
3) I still dont understand why run, if cops were asking them for id or whatever, isn't that a cops job?

sinister scenario-

guys were being harassed by racist cops who threatened them and were going to kill them or torture them, and the guys finally seeing no other way just decided to electrocute themselves

not-so-sinister scenario

cops asked some guys for id, for whatever reason, the guys ran for soem reason (being illegal, having dome something illegal and thinking that is what it was about), guys ran, jumped into a power station area, were not aware of what they were doing and accidentally electrocuted themselves.

or is it something in between. u be the judge

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This is what happens when you let ghettos form. The problem is always primarily economic...

a) These people NEED to become productive members of society and
b) society NEEDS to let the be productive

Anyone who comes in the way of a) or b) is part of the problem.

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If you know anything about the French cops there as racist as you can get. How can minorities be productive members of society when they are labelled guilty of crimes they never even committed. If you want to see and example of the blatant racism even the Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy **He at first referred to the two dead boys as juvenile delinquents who were wanted in connection with a robbery, then amended that to say they were suspected of vandalizing a construction site.

On Monday, during a visit to the nearby police station, he said the youths were "not criminals" and had no criminal records** That is the root cause of the problem peoples racist attitudes!

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why do arm chair jihadis cheer on france when it opposes US then. It appears France has more than its share of issues in how it deals with muslims.

sadly ppl look at france's international posturing for its own interests as something of a noble and altruistic action.

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That is so true a bit like those amerikan brown nosers who think the US is the land of can do no wrong, these people really should know better the capitalist nations like France and the US are scumbags at heart and no muslim should even think of supporting them they always have an agenda at the root!

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and what country should a muslim supoort, pray tell. Iran, saudi Arabia? Bangla desh?
thank you

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Muslims should support and work for the good of each other they belong to one ummah, supporting the kuffar is not an option.

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anyways back to the topic, we dont know what the exact situation in this case was.
ppl may blame the cops for everything, some may blame the youth fpor everything.
right now we dont know all the facts.

but niether rioting, nor throwing tear gases in a mosque can be justified

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Two phrases in the original post that have been ignored:

1) a police tear gas canister landed inside a mosque...
2) Sarkozy, who has also called for affirmative action programs...

It does not appear that the police specifically targeted the people inside the mosque. One of the canisters landed inside

This 'racist' interior minister has been known for his calls for affirmative actions...

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If these guys were as innocent as they claimed, why did they have to run from the police. Just by wearing T-shirts and rioting, these idiots are not going to change the facts. These idiots were running away fromt the police. This is an accepted fact. If a person has not done any wrong, why did they have to run..

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Obviously we can’t say 100% these actions where deliberate but i find it difficult to comprehend how a trained police force can claim they accidently fired a gas canister into a mosque :confused:

Riots don’t just happen blaming the ethnic minorities as they are labelled is always the easy option for government and islamphobes.

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If you know anything about the French cops there as racist as you can get.
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Can you please tell me who is not racist in this world according to you..

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Hmmm pity they don’t keep paitent and calm in gujerat and babri among other places!

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Very true.

Where are those threads where certain Euro-trash enthusiasts were invoking the miracle that is modern socialist Europe? I remember a few of us pointing out the huge unemployment rates in Western Europe, and wondering how a society with 10% unemployment would continue without problems. Why work when the benefits of being unemployed are so rich? Why live in North Africa when you can immigrate (legally or illegally) to a country where you are not required to integrate into the society, even respect the society, and you will be lavished with benefits as if you are employed?

I think I smell closed borders, mass deportations, regime change in Paris, and benefits cuts to a more affordable level. Viva Freedom Fries…