every single legal system on earth works based on fear. if you do this crime, you get punished. therefore, don't do this crime. you accept that fear rules your life when the american government does it, but somehow you cannot accept that fear rules over all of creation when GOD is the administrator.
fear is a reminder. it is a blessing from God. if you went along your whole life doing wrong things and never felt any fear, the end result of your life would be a disaster for you and the people around you. fear repels evil away from you and you cannot function in daily life without fear.
So as a creator what was wrong with directly putting us in the Jannat, don't tell me it was not possible. That would have been a positive thing to do. but nay and behold you have to live your life in fear and worst than that you have no right to say "what's wrong with this".
IMO it's a war betweem Devil and God and the human race is paying for it. Satan comitted a crime by not doing what God asked him, he should have been penalized for it. Next thing I know is the betting (metamorphically speaking) starts that this lowly class human race who they will follow. If they follow the God fine, if not burn them in hell.
IMO it's a war betweem Devil and God and the human race is paying for it. Satan comitted a crime by not doing what God asked him, he should have been penalized for it. Next thing I know is the betting (metamorphically speaking) starts that this lowly class human race who they will follow. If they follow the God fine, if not burn them in hell.
I am sorry i cant answer that..Its probably the rebel in me that raises the same question very often!
first of all devil is no way able to have a war against God even for the smallest fraction of second…
its very naive to even assume that such a war cud exist…
second, satan disobeyed after man was created…
and he will be punished for what he disobeyed…
man will pay for what he disobeys…
satan has nothing to do with man’s action except calling him away from God…
but that is no excuse because God has sent down prophets and books for man to stay on track, telling him that satan is the enemy…
if then man himself choses to follow the devil, and disobey God, why blame it on devil???
IMO it's a war betweem Devil and God and the human race is paying for it. Satan comitted a crime by not doing what God asked him, he should have been penalized for it. Next thing I know is the betting (metamorphically speaking) starts that this lowly class human race who they will follow. If they follow the God fine, if not burn them in hell.
you are misinterpreting the purpose of the muslim life. the purpose of the muslim life is nothing other than to serve and worship God.....through whatever ultimately insignificant struggles we have to deal with. the purpose of the muslim life is not to reach a state of euphoria or nirvana where you never feel any unhappiness ever in your life. if you wanted to feel that way, drugs are available to you that will allow you to feel happy all the time.
and no, you don't have a right to say 'whats wrong with this?'.......does a dog have a right to say 'why am i not a bird?', does a horse have a right to say 'why am i not whale?'.
if you were placed in Jannat, first of all, you wouldn't know that you were in Jannat. you wouldn't say 'hey i'm in heaven!!! this is awesome!!!" because you would never know anything other than heaven. you would never know the struggle of living a life on earth or the struggle of dealing with other people. you wouldn't know that being in Jannat was a positive thing because you would never have known any negative things. you would be like angels.....angels don't see anything as being positive or negative, they just see one thing and that is GOD.
human beings are different because we have to struggle. we have to try and fail .... then try again and succeed. but we must recognize that failure and success depend entirely on God, our role is nothing other than to strive and struggle towards the worship of God. this is why prophet muhammad (pbuh) was the most even-keeled person ever. when he had failures, he didn't get too low. when he had success, he didn't get too high. he was determined in worshipping God only, nothing else. his failures and his success never distracted him from that purpose.
Dayyyyyym.... You got that right! :D You are that "Rat" that we are supposed to look at and say, "Oh Thank God, we are not like him" :D Allah muaaf keray.
Muali, what was your motive behind posting these questions?
You wanted others' opinion or you just wanted to take their views and post your sarcastic and biased remarks on that. Since you did not say let's discuss but said you wanted opinions.
May be you wanted some similar minded people to buck u up and say, oh bro, u r right, u r smart and very intelligent, u got the truth! Then you should have expressed your view first and invited people with similar views to respond, so u cud have felt a king in ur little kingdom.
The way you came across through your sarcastic remarks, it appears that you have already made up your mind. In that case, all I can say is "Verily, those who disbelieve, ...... warn them, or do not warn them, they will not believe. [Quran- 2:06]
Giving it the benefit of doubt, I would think that you are seriously concerned and bothered about these questions and if you really want to know or learn, I wud say go, search, study, seek advice from some scholars. This is not the forum to quench the thirst for the knowledge you are looking for. I hope and pray that you get the answers you are looking for.
I dont this its about believing or not believing in God. Its about following teh rules he has made.
kudos to Light Bearer for the remark of war between God and Devil!!! But the war did start because of mankind so we have to be in this cold war.
muali, the questions you had posed earlier on the forum does show that you seek answers regarding why you are the ginnypig of the situation.. and you may raise your hands and yell.. "God, why me... " and then the big question mark. I dont think asking scholers wouldnt help. bunch of doshbags trying to prove they are always right. SOme of them may be right but most just try to convince you with the most ir-rational points that the person at that time would nodge his head yes, but when once he gets he home, would start scracthin' his head about what the hell did that mean. Hopefully some hadith may help in this matter.
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016:093 If God so willed, He could make you all one people:
But He leaves straying whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases: but ye shall certainly be called to account for all your actions.
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This ayat clearly states that (Note the second line) only He is responsible for "my" accepting the faith or not, but "I" shall be accountable for it.
I don't know how it settle with you, but I feel cheated somehow.
Now as I cannot do anything else as human being, atleast I should be allowed to ask for the fairness.
This ayat clearly states that (Note the second line) only He is responsible for "my" accepting the faith or not, but "I" shall be accountable for it.
Actually, it states that if He wanted, you would have no choice. But you do by His will, and so will have to account for your choices.
Those who want to move closer to God, are brought closer...and those who want to reject God, are distanced.
One could argue that the relationship between man and God is unique in this sense, as human will is not directly subject to his will, and in fact it is the only thing in the universe that God has stated he will react to. That should be taken as a high honour...
But needless to say, the choice of who to leave astray and who to guide is not an arbitrary one, and the choice hinges on one's devotion.
i dont believe in any form of ritualitic religion. i dont pray (although i should, since praying to God makes sense to me). i do believe in a higher being though. and i dont think good/bad deeds (extreme ones like killing) will go un-punished/rewarded.
^ I dont understand your concept of this "higher being"
if you believe in Him then why dont you believe in the Prophets he sent, and what they taught( ritualistic religion)
and what will define good/bad deeds? if you dont believe in any particular religion
^^ u dont have to understand my belief. i just answered muali's question.
i do think i am capable of believing in a higher being without believing in rituals (i am not saying it is bad for u or anything)
its off topic but i think good and bad deeds (whether its burying your daughters, marrying them at 9 yrs, killing innocent people to further a "greater" cause) is subjective and is based on culture and common sense at that time.
Muali, what was your motive behind posting these questions?
You wanted others' opinion or you just wanted to take their views and post your sarcastic and biased remarks on that. Since you did not say let's discuss but said you wanted opinions.
May be you wanted some similar minded people to buck u up and say, oh bro, u r right, u r smart and very intelligent, u got the truth! Then you should have expressed your view first and invited people with similar views to respond, so u cud have felt a king in ur little kingdom.
The way you came across through your sarcastic remarks, it appears that you have already made up your mind. In that case, all I can say is "Verily, those who disbelieve, ...... warn them, or do not warn them, they will not believe. [Quran- 2:06]
Giving it the benefit of doubt, I would think that you are seriously concerned and bothered about these questions and if you really want to know or learn, I wud say go, search, study, seek advice from some scholars. This is not the forum to quench the thirst for the knowledge you are looking for. I hope and pray that you get the answers you are looking for.
Muali, what was your motive behind posting these questions?
You wanted others' opinion or you just wanted to take their views and post your sarcastic and biased remarks on that. Since you did not say let's discuss but said you wanted opinions.
May be you wanted some similar minded people to buck u up and say, oh bro, u r right, u r smart and very intelligent, u got the truth! Then you should have expressed your view first and invited people with similar views to respond, so u cud have felt a king in ur little kingdom.
The way you came across through your sarcastic remarks, it appears that you have already made up your mind. In that case, all I can say is "Verily, those who disbelieve, ...... warn them, or do not warn them, they will not believe. [Quran- 2:06]
Giving it the benefit of doubt, I would think that you are seriously concerned and bothered about these questions and if you really want to know or learn, I wud say go, search, study, seek advice from some scholars. This is not the forum to quench the thirst for the knowledge you are looking for. I hope and pray that you get the answers you are looking for.
Should i laugh or Should i be sad on ur remarks ....well religious fanatics are famous for this kinda thinking cuz to them their mind, their rules,their world is a straight line watever they think is the ultimate truth.And the rest of the world is going to hell just cuz they dont think like them.Bravoooo *
*I dont know why People like you love to push their thoughts ,ideas down everybody's throat ,declaring other fellow muslims to Kafir( non muslim) if they dont agree with their ideas. And where ever people like u can't support your ideas u start refering it to quran knowing that no one would go against that holy book just to prove your superiority over other's argument you do this kinda things thas just makes u a Hipocrite purely hipocrite Now Listen first of all i dont need no preaching from u, i want u to read my whole thread one more time and this time with eyes wide open read it ,i asked questions directly and indirectly related to the fact that the rules set by Allah. i waz just curious 2 know the the rules set by him y he set those rules in this way or it is the twisted form of human thoughts. anyway thas for sure noone needs any advice or opinion from a religious fanatic like you.and people like you ( a close conservative mind freaks ) needs to understand that not every body thinks like you, cuzyour God set it this way for everybody.So u need to understand that his creations has a right to ask his creator certain questions unlike a freaked out person like u.i 've read ur posts in different threads and that made me thankful to god that he didnt make me a closed minded fanatic like you. The kind of messed up impression we have around the world for our religion islam is contributed by wholey by people like u (thank u). All i have to say to people like u iz GROW UP and learn to think in differnt dimensions.Watever humans are right now is because the human mind wanted to explore new things ,questions which he had in his mind wanted the answers otherwise we still would have been trying to light fire from stones and covering our bodies with leaves . Human mind has every right to think the way it wants to ,watever the questions it has regarding anything it has the right to explore everything to find the answers.
*good day *
Those who want to move closer to God, are brought closer...and those who want to reject God, are distanced.
One could argue that the relationship between man and God is unique in this sense, as human will is not directly subject to his will, and in fact it is the only thing in the universe that God has stated he will react to. That should be taken as a high honour...
But needless to say, the choice of who to leave astray and who to guide is not an arbitrary one, and the choice hinges on one's devotion.
Please correct me if I am wrong, facts as we believe;
Allah knows my past, present and future. Meaning everything is sign, sealed and posted. It is will of Allah.
Now please tell me how me a mere mortal can change the will of God. Another dilema is how would you know that the will of God has been changed.
You are simply implying that whichever way I move, is will of Allah.
And I am saying the same as well.
Aap kaan ko peeche say pakar rahe ho mein aage say.
Allah knows my past, present and future. Meaning everything is sign, sealed and posted. It is will of Allah.
Now please tell me how me a mere mortal can change the will of God. Another dilema is how would you know that the will of God has been changed.
You are simply implying that whichever way I move, is will of Allah.
And I am saying the same as well.
Aap kaan ko peeche say pakar rahe ho mein aage say.