QUESTIONS TO A SHIA

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Re: QUESTIONS TO A SHIA

@jishah

1) 1. i am leaving two among u Quran and ( sunnaha or ahlibait)'

so how come Prophet (pbuh) leave quran uncompiled? He completed and compiled it and the way it should be,in the guidence of Allaha (swt). So He by himself changed the tarteeb

sis i agree with you...each and everything is compiled by prophet(pbuh) where to put which ayat..etc etc...abu bakr just collected all these pre=told parts of qurans on camel's bones...leathers..pieces of papaers...stone takhtian...from all of sahabas......and just collected all this "in between two jilds".....means in a book form...tahts all...aeverything was done by prophet(pbuh)...even abu bakr then was very reluctant to shape quran in a book as prophet(pbuh) did not order it...but then abu bakr...may be the first time in his whole life...did one thing which is not said by prophet(pbuh)

Siddique ko hai khuda ka rasool bas....

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2) quran tumharay darmyaan meezan hay.

so how come meezan by it self has no definate shape?
thus no one knows where and how to get hold of meezaan.

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exactly...i agree....

@jishah

) Ilook at 1) and 2)

so how come some one will trust or follow some thing which is prone to changes or is erroneous?

exactly...i am really impressed by the logical way of your description...excellent ....

@jishah

4)Allaha (swt) kaa challange kay may iss kee hifazat karnay walla hoo.

so how come then some one still beleive in Allah

thats the biggest biggest biggest point.....

@jishah

5) Imam Ali (as) is a caliph, finally.

So how come he kept silent, and over looked this?

6) we all pray?

so how come u faithfully, with out any doubt read a suraha which can be minus ayaa(s), plus ayaa(s) and so on. Surprisingly none of the imaam or caliph pointed that out thus they were low in knowledge or there is no doubt in Qura

yes...again very good point...4 years of ali caliphate...why he not pointed out this quran as imcomplete...and further no great imam or caliph pointed this..

@jishah

Now where does this issue comes from:

1) Some of the ahaadeeth books, both sunni and shia. 2) Some philosophical disscusions to solve this issue of ahadeeth being collected. 3) Some intentional literature to mislead.

agree bahna...very good reply......
i already told nice-boy in other thread that if there were no fabricated ahadees why bukhari collected 2513 out of 700000...you can still doubt on some ahadees of bukhari...many sunnis also dto saybukhari just piece of crap...is sheer blindness...

and many fabrications ..philosohical discussions...also made this issue...which is not an issue at all....

quran is complete...from prophet(pbuh) to qiyyammah...thats the promise of Allah Almighty....
best regards
wasalam

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Re: QUESTIONS TO A SHIA

very good approach ..abrother ..i agree with you...but the real problem is shias do not consider the bukhari..muslims and other 6 books...although hadees are quoted from varuious sahabas in many books.....

Because we are not shameless like you who have no hewsitation in accpeting hadith from najis Nawasib and Khawarij; the open enemies of Ahlulbayt [as] and yet claim to be the lover of Ahlulbayt [as]. We believe that either a person should be at that side or this side, the dual approach in simple words is called Munafiqat (hypocrisy).

[jishah]

Re: QUESTIONS TO A SHIA

AOA

I called u both ( dawi dill and boy nice) not only u dawi dill while he speaks against ur's replies.

As for as more than 60 proofs..........
I am not here to discuss this type of material ( if I start giving u data on any topic u will get overwhelmed with info coz i will be giving u from a lot of religions at once to prove my point from logical, historical, religius, philosophical and so on).

But i know the end result would be the same u r still gonna remain what u r and others will remain what they are ( it needs a lot of courage to change and go against the religion of their fore fathers, society, teachings and so on and we all lack it but few of us).

So with freedom ask question to learn about each other not fight. If u wanaa show some thing wrong about other sect do it a nice way once or twice and then leave him alone as u have fullfilled ur duty ( if u do it as duty) else continuing to argue and blaming results in "good changed in to bad' both in the eyes of brothers and othes including Allah (swt).

do not look at it negative.

take care and Allaha hafiz