Questions for british guppies

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It has a lot to do with media i have no problem with india and pak thing as i have my cuz living there and i love them a lot we are like eachother but there are things that our religion doesnt allow like wearing short cloths and so on but if u watch our dramas now days it looks like we are watching non paki dramas. girls and guys touching eacother hugging eachother wearing exposive cloths and when it comes to god bharai have u seen the paki drama mehndi which got quite popular they did god bharai in that drama so there u go we always get inspired by our media....which is bad

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I was born in sweden and i have spent more then half of my life in sweden and i have lived in uk as well for 3 years... i havent been to pak that much but i know most of the things about my culture and religion and i would disagree that it keeps me away from progressing my parents have given me this kind of (tarbiat) that i can fit into any culture and still be in my limits and not forget my roots. We speak only urdu at home i must agree a really dislike kids talking to their parents in english it sound very dissrespectful. I study i wear jeans and shirt u dont see my skin but i still wear european cloths i dont pray five times a day but i try i didnt get chance to read quran in arabic so i read it in english. i love my religion and culture and it has just made me to a better person.
What i am trying to say is that whatever u do dont forget ur religion and culture. And when it comes to biradri kind of stuff like marrying a person outside biradri or zat pat kind of thing this doesnt come in our religion so breaking that kind of thinking is fine i think... i am just saying what i think but i know not everyone agree with me and i respect that fully....

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If it's a serious question then.......

It's too huge a topic ...

There are many, many factors that contribute ...but one of the major ones stems from the origins and links back to Pakistan.

Pakistanis abroad generally live within the limits of what they would have lived in pakistan. An educated paki in pakistan will have certain takes on life, and wherever he/she goes will operate within that, bring their children to live up to that and so forth

An uneducated pakistani from a village/tribal area, can be taken out of the region but to some extent will still be tuned into the same values/honour from back home. And doesnt matter if they're abroad, they will live within the same limits

That i believe is the point of conflict

Youngsters being brought up in an english country wanting to be more englishified, elders emanating from parts of pakistan where to think of such would be thoroughly unacceptable.....and it's a cocktail that leads to disaster

Its not all doom and gloom though

For all the failures and dramatised stories you hear in the headlines, there are a hundreded success stories out there :)

So really...considering the amount of us here, on average we're just as problematic as any other pakis out there

In time things will change....im not the same as my parents, my kids wont be the same as me..

Lets see how it goes

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Firstly if you want to help us then do some research and you will find that MOST british pakistani’s do not like the word Paki therefore it would be good if you could refrain from using this word and use pakistani’s instead. There is quite a bit of history connected with the word paki.

Most of the british Pakistani’s stay in Birmingham/Manchester/Bradford/Stoke on Trent/ and other parts close to these areas.

Towards the south they live in areas such as Slough/Southall/East London

The problems faced by British Pakistani’s is that they underperform in School. Pakistani Children are below the national average in their standards in School, quite a few families live in poverty. Parents dont spend enough time with their children who are struggling in school. Instead the focus is on how to earn loads of £.

Their education is improving but it will take some time. However they are making improvements.

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Trust us Pakis to make an issue out of a non issue.

There is no way you can go around correcting everyone who uses the term ‘Paki’, it’s too much hassle, it’s here to stay and anyway it sounds way cooler than Pakistani, so instead of trying to get away from it reclaim it, next time someone says Paki, turn around and say “too right I am, and I’m damn proud of it” because all it means is Pakistani and that’s what we are, no matter how much people deny it roots matter and in our lifetimes brown people will never be completely British, whilst your at it get one of them StarCrescent body tops with Paki wrote on it as well, I’ve seen your pics and masha allah we need people like you to strengthen the cool Paki image, everything we have should be an asset to our religious and national identities, even if it’s good looks we can use them to tell people that Pakis are goodlooking people.

Paki is an abreviation of Pakistani, we are Paki just as someone from Kazakhstan is Kazakh, Afghanistan is Afghan, Tajikistan is Tajik, Uzbekistan is Uzbek and so on.

The first Paki immigrants probably felt insulted by it because they didn’t know English and thought it meant something derogerotary due to the hateful tone of those saying it or maybe they had a serious inferiority complex and vanted to be Britash through and through and didn’t want to be associated with their land of origin which probably gave the word ‘Paki’ negative connotations, I’ve known some younger generation Coconuts who have a self lothing attitude and try being white but it’s not happening because whether they keep their culture or not they’ll be the same in the eyes of the white man, nothing is going to change their brown skin so they may as well embrace their Pakistani/South-Asian heritage and be proud of it so that others will respect them (obviously they should be bicultural and not cut themselves off from British society). White people don’t always admit it but they’d give anything to have our radiant brown skin and have our vibrant culture over their own dull boring one.

PAKI PRIDE :jhanda: <— See this guy, he’s a reverse coconut.

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^ well said. my sentiments exactly. I make sure that i call me self paki where ever i go just so people know that there is nothing derogatory about the term “paki”

:rolleyes:

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Paki is a derogatory term. You feel the effect when you get in a fight with a cracker and he/she calls you a paki.

However i do feel its all good when used inhouse. In a Chris Rock kinda way.

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Thanks for the comments.

Is it OK to call a nigerian a nigger then?

Which country do you live in? The UK? Do you not know of the history of the word.

I’m sorry if I sound harsh but I do not want to be called by the same name (Paki) that was used to insult my parents. It has quite a bit of history to it. Fine, if other people are fine with the word then thats good but not me.

I remember one time when I was about 6 years old. Me and my brother were walking from the shops with our mother followed by a group of white youths throwing stones at us shouting Paki,Paki…

I guess it’s easy to dismiss the word Paki if you have no history that connects you to it.

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^ Maybe youre missing the point. Its different when someone else whos been in the same boat as you calls you a paki. Like for example its okay if its coming from another desi person who went through the same problems as you.

NO IT IS NOT OKAY for us to call a nigerian nigger. However im sure one nigerian black guy might refer to another nigerian black guy with this term without causing such a great hoopla.

***Gammay ***stop being suck a paki :mad:

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There is absolutely no way Paki is an insult to me. Paki is short for Pakistani like Irani is short for Iranian. The only people that make this a swear word are the dumb Pakis that react to it.

The thread subject can be answered in one word. BIRADERI. It's common where the ghettos occur and lots of uneducated people are brought over (generally people who wear traditional outfits, Hijabs and Niqabs, and cram into poor neighbourhoods). Most Pakis in UK are Mirpuri and this stupid system exists amongst them. Perhaps it exists amongst other ethnic Paki groups, but I haven't heard of it.

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Bro, I know exactly how you feel, we’ve all been there, I too am a Paki who was born and grew up in Britain so I’ve had similar experiences. My old, disabled, defenceless grandfather was walking home one day from the library (he use to go there to read Jang) just minding his own business when a gang of unknown white skinheads decided to do a bit of Pakistani bashing and they beat him black and blue, punctured his kidneys and put him on dialysis for the rest of his life (the police who are also famed for being racist in this country didn’t catch up with them). That’s not all, when my parents first come to this country my mum says she use to wear the veil, not the letterbox ones you see nowadays but them Paki ones you tie under your chin and throw down over your face like a veil, she says she had it ripped off a few times but she didn’t tell paps because she didn’t want him to get in trouble with the police because he’s a hot headed man, she simply had to take it off and start wearing a Turkish scarf over a normal coat instead even though she’s a very spiritual woman and it meant a lot to her but this country is xenophobic, even if someone is different in a way that is not hurting them or not affecting them in anyway they have a problem with it because it’s “rejecting their way of life and everything the west stands for” and all that bollocks. A lot of them have a problem with the veil, with speaking Urdu, growing a beard, wearing a Saari, not eating pork/beef, wearing a Buddha spot, not drinking and having to pray to “Ala” five times a day, the amount of times I’ve heard white people mock these things, they simply don’t believe in live and let live, they don’t mean it when they say they believe in multiculturalism, don’t be fooled by educated upper class ones who show superficial kindness and tolerance because they too hope immigration is stopped and those of us already here will be assimilated one day and marry white women so that our brown genes are lost in a sea of white ones and brown genotype hidden by white phenotype.

Rant over, now where was I…? Yeah “Paki”, a lot of goray say the words Pakistani, ‘indu, Muslim, Black, and Brown in a derogatory way as well, does it mean we stop referring to ourselves with these words? They’ll add the B (born out of wedlock) word after all of them but does that mean we go along with what they dictate and agree that it sucks to be Paki and start complaining about it? Hell no, we ought to say “yeah so what?! It’s cool to be Paki, better than being a gora innit!!!” Like I said you’ll never get rid of the term Paki, the more you get annoyed by it the more they are going to use it.

The other day I was walking home along this road going past this hill, the hill is quite high up and there’s a wall and bushes going all the way along it so I couldn’t see behind it, anyway there must have been a few chavs up there smoking skunk and drinking cheap beer and I heard a girl shout “oye Paki boy!!”, I turned around stood there fuming (not at the word Paki itself but the fact that she thought it something derogatory and insulting) and I just shouted back to her in a broad northern accent “I’m f****** (slang for ‘sexing’) proud of it you freckle f****** (slang for ‘vagina’), orangey-yellow pubed, pale, bland, pancake-faced whore. I’d sooner be a Paki b****** than a swine faced Albino b****** any day.”

Boy did that shut her up, her or the lads with her didn’t have the guts to say anything back, even though there was one me and by the sound of it a dozen of them. I felt good, I’m not normally racist in my approach but if I hadn’t said anything back I wouldn’t have slept that night.

Note to Mods: For the sake of freedom of expression please don’t edit my post because I’ve already censored the swear words and if people are too immature to be offended by censored swear words then they shouldn’t be on the Internet in the first place.

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So why exactly is "Paki" so offensive?

As far as I know it's never been offensive here in USA..?

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Question.. if he's so disabled and defenseless why was he walking alone? Esp in a country that's so voilent and racist, why wasn't there someone there with hiM?

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This is too long to read.

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Brits arent that bad..anglo brits I mean..There's definitiely racism, but I think Pakis like this guy complain too much. It's usually those that dont do well that complain anyway.

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Well I said violent and racist coz thats wat Promiscuous paki kept implying (or saying).. i've never been to England or UK so I wudn't say that I know they're violent or racist..just what i've heard.

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Everyone has different experiences. Personally I've never been attacked, but then again I look like I eat humans for breakfast.

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Sarah what sort of a stupid comment is that? It wasn't practical for someone to be with him all the time, my mum and dad both worked at the time and I was at primary school.

You know how he was diabled? He lost his right arm fighting for the crown in the second world war, what do the British give him in return? Racism?

Now it makes me laugh when white people tell me if war broke out I should fight for queen and country, what for? For a people and nation who'll never accept me as theres except when it suits them and they're in the right mood?

Had it not been for the economic situation in our country we'd not be here.

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^^ To be honest with you..noone believes these stories you tell..you sound like a kid telling tales. If you provided proof, then yes people would believe you.

But on the subject of Britain not treating people right who fought in World War 2, why should you expect them to? The war is over now, and that sort of stuff happens to white, Asian, black etc. A frail old grandfather shouldnt be going places where he's going to get beat up anyway. You sound like the anglo people you despise so much.

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Nobody told you to read my post.

You seem really ignorant and slave minded anyway with your comment about Hijabi/Niqabi women, if white people are xenophobic then that’s their own problem not the Hijabi/Niqabi’s, only lowly people change themselves for no reason but to please others.

Lowly slave minded people like someone irk me more than anything, they are lower than the lowest, constantly dissing their own people and changing their ways just to please whites, living a life full of a feeling of insecurity and inferiority shudder.

Maybe you are one of the docile types who'll just laugh it off (matey they're laughing at you, not with you) and probably don't mind it too much and get happy when they tell you you're an exception but some of us have more self-respect and honour than others.

I mean I too have had White people tell me I'm an exception to "the rest of them" darker Pakis because I look white (I'm from NWFP/NW-Punjab so I can easily pass off as a tanned white boy), I don't sound like the "rest of them" (I've got the most broad northern English farmerboy accent anyone ever heard), I'm one of the lads (I know all about their culture down to their traditional cuisine) and they don't class me as "the rest of them" but I can't stand for any of that because "the rest of them" happen to be my family, friends and people, I'll call myself British and respect British culture but not if it means I can't be Paki anymore and have to look down on my own people and there ways because I feel hollow without Desi culture and Muslim religion, life just wouldn't be the same without coming home to the smell of masala from the haandi, azaan playing on asian radio in the background, doe-eyed pretty asian lasses with lustrous black locks clad in Saaris, strong family systen. White man culture is boring, dull, sterile, cold and 'cilinical'.

I’ve seen this same gora-wannabe mindset amongst Iranians and Indians, both have reason to be that way because they either look pheekay or gandey but it shames to have Pakis who have the same attitude because Pakis are sexy people with a wonderful culture so we should be proud of who we are and if whites don’t like it they can sod off, Pakis with an inferiority complex like someone should know they’re just giving themselves and other Pakis a bad image, if they can’t have confidence in being Pakistani then they should just pretend to be white and say their skin colour is the result of a positive genetic mutation or too much suntan.