This doesn’t warrant a thread, but I didn’t know where else to ask.
If a muslim goes into a gurudwara and help prepares the langar, is that being disrespectful to Islam? How about if a Muslim bows before the Guru Granth Sahib, is that acceptable?
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I dont know about the langar bit but I am sure that bowing before anyone but Allah means you have committed shirk. So its a definite no-no.
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obviously you wont find any scholars here, just opinions. mine is that helping with whatever langar is sinful in this case and bowing to guru nanak is plain kufr in any case
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See, I can understand the bowing being unacceptable, but I don't get why the langar bit should be problematic.
In any case, thank you both.
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Bowing to anyone except Allah is a big no no; you can't even bow before the Prophet SAW. But I don't think helping to prepare the langar will be a problem...
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Thanks, Ice.
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the langar would be a problem because you're helping in preparing something that is directly related to kuffar. I would stay away from it.
You should do your best to stay away from anything kuffar-ist in nature. (yeah, I know kuffar-ist isn't a word but you get my point lol)
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I seriously doubt if langar is unislamic. Lnagar is not an ibadat. Unless its equivalent to Fateha/nazar/nayaz - I doubt that something that happens only to serve general public (all are invited to eat that langar, you dont have to be a sikh) would be a sin.
Prophet 
himself used to send food to his neighbors irrespective of their religion.
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to serve the purpose of islam or to serve the propagation of sikhism, thats what it boils down to. done from a mosque or by an islamic charity then it may be an islamic act.
done from a gurdwara it is done for a rival to Allah SWT and his messenger saw (naudhubillah)
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you can just watch n observe...doing it can't recommended...because it 'might be' wrong...so why take a chance?
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to serve the purpose of islam or to serve the propagation of sikhism, thats what it boils down to. done from a mosque or by an islamic charity then it may be an islamic act. done from a gurdwara it is done for a rival to Allah SWT and his messenger saw (naudhubillah)
It does serve the purpose of Islam when Sikh and other people see Muslims serving community without any religious bias. Who is going to enter the mosques other than Muslims when you are serving from there. Why cant we do it with the niyat of tableegh and dawaa?
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IceSoul:
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Bowing to anyone except Allah is a big no no; you can't even bow before the Prophet SAW.
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Bowing is different from prostration. It is just a way of showing respect. I don't understand why it would be a "no no".
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bowing to guru nanak is plain kufr in any case
How easy it is to declare the kufr-fatwas among Muslims.
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IceSoul:
Bowing is different from prostration. It is just a way of showing respect. I don't understand why it would be a "no no".
bowing in front of ghair allah is a big shirk. Sahaba once asked Prophet that we've seen people bowing in front of kings so why dont we do that to you and prophet got really angry and said no. You think Sahaba was proposing it cause they thought that Prophet was GOD (nauzobillah) or just because they wanted to show their respect. It was the respect, even then prophet did not like that.
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bowing in front of ghair allah is a big shirk.
Errr going off-topic but can any Muslim here claim that they worship Allah (swt) directly without involving his authorities? When you pray, you face the Kaaba, you keep the Kaaba in your mind during namaaz. The Kaaba is ghair allah. The name of Allah (swt) are also not Allah but other than Allah.
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You face Kaba, its a direction indicator on where to face when pray. Its not that you are praying to Kaba
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[12:99] Then when they entered the presence of Joseph, he provided a home for his parents with himself, and said: "Enter ye Egypt (all) in safety if it please Allah."
[12:100] And he raised his parents high on the throne (of dignity), and they fell down in prostration, (all) before him. He said: "O my father! this is the fulfilment of my vision of old!
Some people have used the above verse as an evidence to prove that 'Sajda e Tazeemi' or Sajda done out_of_respect is allowed just as brothers of Yousuf (as) prostrated to him. People also quote Sajda of Angels to Adam (as) OR magicians in the courtyard of Firoun. But in the later case it is evident that the magicians prostrated in awe of the might of Allah (swt) [20:70]. In Adam's case too, prostration was made but a clear, direct command of Allah (swt).
However, if we take into this matter in the light of teachings of our Prophet (saww) & his progeny then it is clear that Sajda to anyone except Allah (swt) is forbidden. Sajda is a very special act, one of highest form of submission and outside prayer can be performed as thanksgiving to God anytime. However in the case of the OP, or Sajda to gurunanak, it is quite clearly a wrong act.
One example. Imam Ali (as) was leaving for a war on horse when, a group of people came and prostrated infront of him just as they used to do infront of their kings. Imam Ali rebuked them and said woe unto you, for I am a human just like you. Therfore, if a man like Ali (as), whose virtues are unmatchable as said by the Prophet (saww) himself, detests being prostrated to, then no human deserves a sajda.
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it is especially sinful if the roti at langar has a burn mark that shows jesus on it. watch out.
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^well, if its a gurdwara then chances are that the roti will have a mark resembling darhi and pugg walay chacha holding up a kirpaan.
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it is especially sinful if the roti at langar has a burn mark that shows jesus on it. watch out.
LMAO