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dont drag the grandmom into it, its not her fault her grandson is extremely horny.
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yeah that boy has his own mind, if he is a bit Samajhdaar, he would say No, we are to young to marry, or something smarts like that .. .... ???
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age doesn't matter if both girl and guy r willing. hes 20 so i think he's old enuff, and girl's 17, thats old enuff
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Well grandma is the one who wants her grandson to marry before she dies.. And yes age does matter, 17/20 is way too young for guy-girl.. physically you may be mature, but mentally and emotionally errr no way. Idea of marriage at that age is just wrong IMO
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Yeah thats your opinion, others may disagree, if the people involved r willing and want to, I don't see a problem.
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^ I don't think many 15-16 year olds really have much of a choice in that matter or the knowledge of what goes into a marriage, so no i dont buy the "willing"ness part. At that age its..getting away from parents, having all the nice dresses/center of attention and sex.
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^I think that's true for all ages. No one really understands marriage before experiencing it first-hand.
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Sara, don't you know, seventeen is the perfect age for marriage esp. for girls. It makes it so much easier for the couple to get along as the girl is too young to really know herself so thus very easily trainable.
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A few weeks ago, I met this aunty who had gotten her son married to a girl who had just finished high school. She was laughing and telling all the other aunties (me included 
) how the girl was now their servant, advising everybody else to marry their sons to young girls fresh out of high school cause they know nothing and are too naive/weak to fight back. It’s important not to get an education. That way, they will remain in the family’s control. 
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^That's a shame, don't think majority of mothers r looking for servants tho.
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It is more common than you think, although thank God the majority are not like that. It certainly does happen though. I have come across too many people with this kind of thinking.
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but hes her fiance? And hes a guy..20 yr old..of course hes gonna be horny. If shes scared he talks dirty then shes not ready to get married
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Yeah uh huh i can relate
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My advise to you will be to work on changing the company you keep. JahiloN mae baiTho gi to jihalat ki bataiN hi suno gi.
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Er no. Mature people understand that there's LOTS more to marriage than just that. Yeah pretty clothes and getting laid (if u never been) are a plus, but that's not hte main reason to marry but again mature people know that a good relationship requires lots of hard work.
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daaaaayum, getting married @ 17.
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the younger the better ;)
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This is not entirely true. You can train them all you want, but there are extrinsic factors that will push them towards these things, and there is nothing they can do about it…'cept.. Do it legally. (i.e. get married)
Personally…I would advise you to do istikhara, find out about the guy, and do marry him, if everything seems perfect. I don’t think your mom made a wrong decision, usually they think about their kids when making these rishtas perfect.
Also, if the guy is talking dirty to you…thats understandable, 1. He is a guy. 2. He is from pakistan. 
, but…maybe he doesn’t have enuff knowledge to keep his mouth shut for now? Maybe now that he knows that you will be his wife, he doesn’t care, and actually treats you like a wife?..Make sure he is the one. Lastly, don’t get into a physical relationship if you are not up to it…it is your choice…at that age, you could handle it im sure, but if you’re mentally not prepared..then it is your choice. So you do have an option..for now atleast.
I’m sure most of our grandparents got married when they were 14-15, because marriages at an early age were the “thing” back in the day.
I don’t know why its so “bad” to get married young.
You mature physically at an early age, and you develop mentally all your life, there is no definite age where you’re “mentally mature”. I know people who are immature ALL the time, and they’re like in their 40s.
Maturity comes when you want it to, and it is there all your life, you develop it as you grow.
You can be a 16 year old mature girl, marrying a 26 year old immature guy…it depends.
As long as you two have an understanding…and a base for your relationship to grow on. Then go for it!
InshAllah you’ll have all your life to develop yourselves.
You’re not “established” or “fully developed” ever in life…you just struggle through it, no matter what comes at you
And yeah, Islamically…You are fine…cept for the dirty talk…
plz refrain from it …for now atleast. 
My 3 cents.
P.S. The younger the better…more energy…more fun…you don’t wanna be a boring adult that fast… hehe
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Oh yeah?
Hope you're blessed with someone young :p