one of my good friend who is Sunni and non-Syed wants to marry a Shea and Syed girl. he’s really confused becoz he’s been hearing different things from different people. is it really true that this type of marrige is not allowed and forbidden by Rashulallah (PBUH) himself? becoz of course if Rashulallah (PBUH) has forbidden it then this must contain Allah (swt)'s reasoning. so he wants to know if Rashulallah (PBUH) has actually forbidden a marrige b/w a Sunni/non-Syed and a Shea/Syed or is this just a misunderstanding and falsification among Muslims these days? or is this just something culture has established that has nothing to do with religion?
ok second question regarding the same issue. if it is true that this kind of marrige is prohibited by Rashulallah (PBUH) then if they do get married, would the Shea/Syed girl be punished for marrying a Sunni/non-Syed guy? becuase apparantly the girl he wants to marry claims that it is Gunnah for any Syed girl to marry a non-Syed boy and that Syeds are only allowed to marry among themselves since they r descendents of Rasulallah (PBUH)
i know it’s a little confusing but my friends is really stressed right now, it would be much appreciated if u guys cud give sum insight to this topic becoz i kno a lot of u guys r very knowledgeable abt Islam. Thanks a lot.
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there was no sunni/shia at time of the Prophet (saw)....
and he never did forbid syed to marry non-syed....
if he did, Islam wud stand at the same level as the tribal systems that it did away with....
family superiority is non-existent in Islam....
Well we have had quite a few shia sunni, syed/non syed marriages in our family and they have been pretty sucessful.
It is more on person to person. If you think you can't handle it, you can't adjust with each other's school of thought and it will become a big issue later then don't do it. Every sunni shia marriage is not a failure. Some might be, just like some sunni sunni or shia shia marriage.
Don’t pay attention to this idiot. To answer your question, I have a feeling that the girl is trying to get rid of the guy, as there have been many marriages between Shias and Sunnis in the past and have never been prohibited. The guy is a shmuck if he doesn’t know this, to be honest.
After 3 months when the romance is over, they will come to a stark realization…That the guy’s susraal does Maatam and wishes for the guy to do the same…Then in some cases will start to abuse the noble companions of the Prophet :saw:…(WOuldn’t really matter if the guy was just a born Muslim…Then it would be a non-issue)…
Then nine months later when the child has been born, the problems will really start…Then when the child will start to speak, if the mother is a devout Shia, instead of teaching the Kalima or Allah :swt:'s words, she starts teaching him to curse the three Khulfa-e-Rashideen…
And if there are more siblings, then some would follow the father and some would follow the mother…Internal strifes…
Right now it’s love, adoration, mush mush, everything will be alright mentality…
oh it could be worse…if the wife is a shia and the hubby a sunni, the wife’s religious beliefs might take a backseat and the hubby’s family might teach the kids to look at the companions of the prophet for guidance in hadith rather than the prophet’s Family (ahlul bayt). they might stop the kids from grieving the loss of the prophet’s family. they might tell them that the story of abu bakr and umar sneakily snatching the throne away from Ali during a time of chaos is so not true. or that hadith by Ayesha is to be trusted. etc etc.
oh yes it could turn out ugly…
or it could be that the wife and hubby not let their in-laws mess up a great compatible relationship and teach kids both points of view and let them decide on their own.
Lets not turn it into a Shia vs. Sunni thread. Simply put, if both the guy and girl happen to be very practicing then there is a chance that there may be conflicts later on. On the contrary, if the two think that it is possible for them to tolerate the differences and work something out then it may work. Allahu aalim.
*Have you heard of the term “planning beforehand”? If you can’t plan anything beforehand, why would you go forward with it? And you are kind of generalizing that all Shias curse the Sahabas, which is entirely false. Marriages fall apart even when two individuals have been brought up in the exact same religious environment. I would rather marry a Sunni girl(which I do plan to do) who I understand better than some random Shia girl my parents choose for me. It’s not about me suffering from “mush-mush” syndrome, it’s logical. *
^ at times logics do go wrong when u dont put forth religious differences. game yar uve got a point . i wish u best of luck .. Allah tumhien nazr-e-bed se mehfooz rekhey and tumhari zindagi ki sari khooshiyah de ! ameen
i asked the same question and was given answers via Email (i think it was from some Molvi from ISNA and some other mosque) ....in essence, 'They' didn't Totally discouraged the knot bt/w Shia Sunni....but they didn't encouraged it either......i will post the replies here as soon as i find them in my mail.... it might help someone
Well Lajawaab has got the logical answer to it and my logic agrees with it.
Put it this way (No disrespect to any of the sects!!!) if both the partners come to a decision that the religious faiths would not be imposed on the kids and theyh would be free to choose from, (Im assuming thats what the game is trying to imply), then there would be no basic or formal religious up-bringing of kids and in the haphazzard and chaotic life of ours, give it 10 years and what sights we will see, Allah knows best.
So planning forhead or no planning forhead, I dont see a reason to emotionally getting involved in other sect. Yeah possibility is there in some cases where one party can embrace the other sect or have no objection on their children going totally astray from Islam.
Answer to the actuall question about Syeds and non-Syeds is that yes you can marry a sayed and there is no harm in it, you can get syeds in both the sects.
Im open to criticism, non-personal points would be much appreciated.
haha i find it incredibly funny wat a desi point of view u guys have and how u guys trail off into the “marrige problems”/“what will they teach the kids” kinda thing. wat if they dun wanna have kids to begin with i don’t even kno how religious either of them are. lol anyway, no offense…let’s leave those problems up to them..
other than that, thanks for the insight. i’m not a big marrige expert and originally my thoughts were that non-syed and syed could get married, but the guy insisted that the girl said they could not. now either the girl is lying to get him to go away or her parents have brainwashed her and she really believes that. becoz apparantly she was claiming that “a syed girl is not allowed to get married to a non-syed guy and if she does than it is immense gunnah” i just wanted to clarify this…thanks a lot guys, u r always a lot of help
Oh bhaijan, I know you wouldn’t (and you didn’t!), but that’s primarily because you follow your religion so sincerely. I am a different case altogether, unfortunately.
LOL "marrying a sunni is gunnah"
shes gotta come up with something better than that and you know what surprises me, the guy STILL wants to marry her? WOW! thats some love
i don’t even kno how religious either of them are. lol anyway, no offense…let’s leave those problems up to them..