question regarding shaadi

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Can't a Syed (descendant of Muhammed pbuh) be a Sunni? I believe President Musharraf is also a Syed.

Re: question regarding shaadi

the game
hehe '‘planning beforehand’? i must laugh at this damn shallow term
hello .. u r talking about dealing with unpredictable Person(or rather personality) on life term basis…NOT about some game or whatever where your Planning is guaranteed to work out…

anyways… here are the replies which i mentioned ealier…
feel free to accept or reject it as per your discretion :slight_smile:


Reply # 1

Respected Sister in Islam

Assalamu Alaikum:

Please find below the answer to your question:
(Your question was forwarded to us from the Islamic Foundation, Nugget Ave.)

**Marriage with a Shi’a **

In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) himself explained that the primary consideration in choosing a spouse should be their Deen.
In a Hadith recorded by many Hadith scholars, the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said:

“A woman is married for four reasons, her wealth, lineage, status and Deen. Choose the one who is religious.” (Sahih al-Bukhari)

This also applies to women, in that a man is married for four reasons.

“Deen” is a very comprehensive word. It does not only mean praying and fasting. Rather, it relates to one’s entire conduct of life.

Therefore, it covers:

  1. Belief (Aqidah)
  2. Outward worship (Ibadaat)
  3. Good character and manners (Akhlaq)
  4. Good dealings with others (Mu’amalaat)
  5. Turning to Allah in all affairs (Suluk)

Therefore, the first and foremost thing that should be considered before marrying someone is their religious belief and conduct of life.

With regards to marrying a Shi’a man, firstly, it should be understood that there are two types of Shi’as.

a) Those who hold beliefs that constitute disbelief (kufr), such as having the belief that the Qur’an has been altered, Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) is God, the angel Jibril made an error in descending with the revelation on the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) rather than Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him), accusing Sayyida Ai’isha (Allah be pleased with her) of committing adultery or denying the Companionship (suhba) of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him).

The great Hanafi jurist, Imam Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) states:
“There is no doubt in the disbelief (kufr) of those that falsely accuse Sayyida Ai’isha (Allah be pleased with her) of adultery, deny the Companionship of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr ( Allah be pleased with him), believe that sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) was God or that the angel Jibril by mistake descended with the revelation (wahi) on the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace), etc… which is apparent Kufr and contrary to the teachings of the Qur’an.” (Radd al-Muhtar, 4/453)

Therefore, Shi’as who hold such beliefs are without doubt out of the fold of Islam.

b) Those who do not hold beliefs that constitute Kufr, such as believing that Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) was the rightful first Caliph after the demise of the Messenger of Allah, belief in the twelve Imams, etc…
Such Shi’as cannot be termed as out of the fold of Islam, rather they are considered to be severely deviated and transgressors (fisq).
Imam Ibn Abidin states:

“It is difficult to make a general statement and judge all the Shi’as to be non-believers, for the scholars have agreed on the deviation and defection of the deviated sects.” (ibid)

It should be remarked here that some members of the Shi’a community display outwardly not to have believes that constitute Kufr, but keep these beliefs in their heart, which they call Taqiyya.

The case with such people is that if they did hold beliefs that constitute Kufr in their heart but outwardly denied them, then even though according to Allah and in the hereafter they will be regarded as non-Muslims, but we will judge them according to their outward statements and actions.

The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is reported to have said: “I have been ordered to judge people according to their outward condition.”

Keeping the above in mind, it becomes clear that marrying Shi’as that are not considered Muslims is out of the question. If one was to marry such a person, the marriage (nikah) would be invalid.

Shi’as that are not considered to be out of the fold of Islam are still regarded to be severely deviated, thus marriage with them also should never be considered, although the Nikah will be valid. This becomes more important when the case is of a Sunni Muslim girl marrying a Shi’a boy, as the affect this can have on the wife and children may be detrimental.

It could have long term damages with regards to your beliefs and your children’s beliefs. There are many Sunni practising pious brothers you could get married to. May Allah bless you with a pious and caring husband.

And Allah knows best
Muhammad ibn Adam Alkawthari
Darul Iftaa
http://www.daruliftaa.com/


Reply # 2 From ISNA

A Muslim is one who adheres to the basic tenets and practices of Islam, which include affirming the six articles of faith (i.e. the Oneness of Allah, the Angels, the Scriptures, the Messengers, the Last Day (including the Resurrection) and the fact that good and bad are decreed by Allah) besides adhering to the Five Pillars (i.e. testifying the Oneness of Allah, establishing Prayer, offering Compulsory Charity, Fasting the month of Ramadhan and making Pilgrimage to the Ka’bah). All of the above also presupposes that one must accept what Allah has declared Unlawful as Unlawful and what He has declared Lawful as Lawful. The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, “Whoever prays as we do, faces towards the Qiblah that we face (in our Prayer) and eats of the animals we sacrifice, he/she is considered as a Muslim enjoying the protection of Allah and His Messenger.”
In light of these and other evidences, all of the moderate Shi’ah who are generally believed to be adhering to the above tenets and practices are considered as Muslims, and as such there is nothing un-Islamic about forging a marriage relationship between a Sunni man and Shi’ah woman or vice versa . Having said this, however, I must rush to state that since marriage is a long term commitment spanning an entire life-time it is important that the parties involved have a free and frank discussion of thorny issues involving various celebrations, upbringing of children, etc. and then arrive at a mutually satisfactory understanding about them prior to tying the knot. In other words, a pre-nuptial agreement is therefore considered an important step in that direction. May Allah help us all to see the truth as truth and follow it, and see error as error and shun it-Aameen.


tc

Re: question regarding shaadi

*Hello? Unlike your case, my parents will not find a village ki bakri for me. For “planning beforehand”, you need to find someone first, which is unlikely in your case. So back off right now. And all you wrote down in your long, tedious statement was summed up by myself in one sentence. *

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it has been said tht common sense is not common…i know shia and sunnis marriages failed badly beac spouses thought tht their version islamn was correct and they wanted their child to become sunni or shia wht eva…to avoid any such condition,shias and sunnis marriages must not happened…beac the base of relationship is extremely weak..life is not a romantic movie..its a practical thing…

and yes,majority of people will neva support shias and sunnis combined marriage