Question on how much Fidya to pay?

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For those women who are pregnant or breastfeeding, what is the current rate of Fidya to pay in UK and Pakistan please?

Last year the rate was 120 pounds in London.

Thank you for anyone who can help with this information.

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muslim hands says 7 pound per day...

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I sent £150 to pakistan wasnt sure what the rate was so sent it to my mother in law hoping it should cover it as this would convert to 21,000 rupees which equates to 700 rupees for each day for 30 days

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Thanks guys - really appreciate it. :) :)

Do you guys happen to know what the rate it in Pakistan as well please?

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**if you do NOT fast and can never fast in future due to a medical condition only then fidiya becomes wajib-ul-adaa. when paying, one must pay equivalent of the kinda food he/she takes in ramadaan in a place where he/she lives. if i live in Canada, i will be expected to pay what i consume in ramadhan at Canadian rate of exchange.

for those who only defer fasting for another time b4 next Ramadhan, he/she is NOT required to pay fidiya.**

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As far as I know there is no fidya for pregnant and breastfeeding mothers .

Source

Ruling on fasting for pregnant women and breastfeeding mothers

Is it permissible for my wife who is breastfeeding my ten-month-old son not to fast during Ramadaan?.

Praise be to Allaah. With regard to breastfeeding mothers – and also pregnant women – two scenarios may apply:
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If the woman is not affected by fasting, and fasting is not too difficult for her, and she does not fear for her child, then she is obliged to fast, and it is not permissible for her not to fast.
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If the woman fears for herself or her child because of fasting, and fasting is difficult for her, then she is allowed not to fast, but she has to make up the days that she does not fast.
In this situation it is better for her not to fast, and it is makrooh for her to fast. Some of the scholars stated that if she fears for her child, it is obligatory for her not to fast and it is haraam for her to fast.
Al-Mirdaawi said in al-Insaaf (7/382):
It is makrooh for her to fast in this case… Ibn ‘Aqeel said: If a pregnant woman or a breastfeeding mother fears for her pregnancy or her child, then it is not permissible for her to fast in this case, but if she does not fear for her child then it is not permissible for her not to fast.
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked in Fataawa al-Siyaam (p. 161):
If a pregnant woman or breastfeeding mother does not fast with no excuse, and she is strong and in good health, and is not affected by fasting, what is the ruling on that?
He replied:
It is not permissible for a pregnant woman or breastfeeding woman not to fast during the day in Ramadaan unless they have an excuse. If they do not fast because they have an excuse, then they have to make up the missed fasts, because Allaah says concerning one who is sick (interpretation of the meaning):
“and whoever is ill or on a journey, the same number [of days which one did not observe Sawm (fasts) must be made up] from other days”
[al-Baqarah 2:185]
Pregnant women and breastfeeding mothers come under the same heading as those who are sick. If their excuse is that they fear for the child, then as well as making up the missed fasts, according to some scholars they also have to feed one poor person for each day missed, giving wheat, rice, dates or any other staple food. Some of the scholars said that all they have to do is make up the missed fasts, no matter what the situation, because there is no evidence in the Qur’aan or Sunnah for giving food in this case, and the basic principle is that there is no obligation unless proof of that is established. This is the view of Abu Haneefah (may Allaah have mercy on him) and it is a strong view.
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was also asked in Fataawa al-Siyaam (p. 162) about a pregnant women who fears for herself or her child, and does not fast – what is the ruling?
He replied by saying:
Our answer to this is that one of two scenarios must apply in the case of a pregnant woman.
The first is if she is healthy and strong, and does not find fasting difficult, and it does not affect her foetus. In this case the woman is obliged to fast, because she has no excuse not to do so.
The second is where the pregnant woman is not able to fast, either because the pregnancy is advanced or because she is physically weak, or for some other reason. In this case she should not fast, especially if her foetus is likely to be harmed, in which case it may be obligatory for her not to fast. If she does not fast, then like others who do not fast for a valid reason, she has to make up the days when that excuse no longer applies. When she gives birth, she has to make up those fasts after she becomes pure from nifaas. But sometimes the excuse of pregnancy may be lifted but then immediately followed by another excuse, namely breastfeeding. The breastfeeding mother may need food and drink, especially during the long summer days when it is very hot. So she may need not to fast so that she can nourish her child with her milk. In this case we also say to her: Do not fast, and when this excuse no longer applies, then you should make up the fasts that you have missed.
Shaykh Ibn Baaz said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (15/224):
With regard to pregnant women and breastfeeding mothers, it is proven in the hadeeth of Anas ibn Maalik al-Ka’bi, narrated by Ahmad and the authors of al-Sunan with a saheeh isnaad, that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) granted them a dispensation allowing them not to fast, and he regarded them as being like travelers. From this it is known that they may not fast but they have to make up the fasts later, just like travelers. The scholars stated that they are only allowed not to fast if fasting is too difficult for them, as in the case of one who is sick, or if they fear for their children. And Allaah knows best.
It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (10/226):
The pregnant woman is obliged to fast during her pregnancy, unless she fears that fasting may affect her or her foetus, in which case she is allowed not to fast, and she should make up the fasts after she gives birth and becomes pure from nifaas.

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^ i agree with Mirch.

A lot of women think that they could just pay fidya during their pregnancy/nursing and that's that. But she has to make up her fasts at her a later time.

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Thank you guys for this information. Much appreciated. My SIL also in my condition is in PK so that's why I asked the Pakistan rate.

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^ Iyla totally ignored the “you cannot pay fidya, you must fast later” posts :hehe:

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^ wouldn't you?

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Yes, if I am pregnant, I may.

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:chai:

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Mirch Unlce: you are awesome.

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Hehe..no i didn’t ignore them. now i’ll have 60 fasts to recover! inshallah i’ll do it.

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Inshallah. The best is to do it during winter months, since the days are shorter. \

otherwise, fast on Monday and Thursdays - it's Sunnah to do so.

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Thank you!

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you havent provided any authentic sources. from the scholars i have heard from they say that if you give fidya then you dont have to make up for the fasts. these scholars always quote from authentic hadith and the Quran. what you have written just seems to be a case of “pakistanis” trying to make our religion as hard for ourselve as we can. alot of paistanis have a endency to do that for some strange reason…it seems as though they are trying to prove they are holier than everyone else by making the religion of islam as difficult for themselves as possible. some pakistanis even go as far as saying youhave to make up for all the salahs you have mised in your life! Islam is a religion of ease and logic. wheres the ease or logic in paying fidya AND making up for the fasts that are missed due to pregnancy or fasting? plz research properly before just copying and pasting some one sided often illogical website on here.

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I have to make up 6 years of fasts due to pregnancy and nursing, thats half a year of fasting, tell me how to do it.

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LFP.. here are some sources for you.. fidya is only for people who cannot and will never be able to fast again in their lifetime due to illness.. not for pregnant or nursing woman, they HAVE to make up for the missed fasts.

Fatwa # 9969 from Australia Date: Friday, October 24th 2003

Category
Fasting (Sawm)
Title
A pregnant or breastfeedn woman does not fast as she feels its bad 4 the health,does she mke qadhaa?or gve fidya?quote all 4 madhaahib

Question
I would like to know if a breastfeedin or pregnannt woman has to mke qadhaa or gve fidyaa 4 miassed fasts if she does not fast fearing ill health-kindly quote all four madhaahib,was slaam,

Answer
A pregnant woman and a breastfeeding woman is granted leeway not to fast
during Ramadhaan if fasting is harmful to her or her child. She has to make
Qadhaa (make up) for all her missed fasts later. She cannot offer Fidyah for
the missed fasts.

and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

Brief Overview of Expiatory Payments (fidya)
September 12th, 2010 Share Print
Answered by Sidi Waseem Hussain

Question: Can you explain the rules of expiatory payments (fidya) and who it applies to?

Answer: Asslamu Alaykum Warahmatullah,

The expiatory payment is a special form of charity given to a poor person where one has to pay for each day of missed fasts during Ramadan.

For every day of missed fasting one has to pay the value of approximately 2 kg of wheat. Please consult a local scholar on what the amount exactly is in your area.

In the Hanafi-school, the expiatory payment for Ramadan is only paid by “a person who is not able to fast at all.” This entails that fthe expiatory payment only applies for people whom, due to health considerations:

  1.   Cannot fast in Ramadan and

  2.   Cannot make up for the missed fasts at any other time of the year and

  3.   Are not expected to ever regain the ability to make up for the missed fasts

All three conditions must be fulfilled. Otherwise one does not pay expiatory payments but has to perform the missing fasts.

This entails that:

Someone who misses out on a few days of fasting due to a temporary illness does not pay any expiatory payment.
Someone who accidentally or deliberately broke the fast does not pay any expiatory payment.
Someone who is unable to fast this year due to surgery or the like, but is expected to be able to fast next year does not pay any expiatory payment.
Someone who is unable to fast during the summer-months (long days), but can perform the make-up fasts in the winter moths (shorter days) does not pay any expiatory payment
If expiatory payment is given then it is a condition that the inability to fast remains until death. If someone was to regain his ability to fast after having paid then the expiatory payment will be rendered charity and one will have to perform make-up fasts instead.

Thus, in the Hanafi-school there is no expiatory payment for a pregnant or nursing woman who does not fast during Ramadan. She only has to perform make-up fasts. Similarly there is no expiatory payment if one was to delay making-up missed fasts for the current Ramadan until the next Ramadan entered.

As for your specific questions

  • If one pays fidyah are they still supposed to make up the fast that was missed?

No. The expiatory payment is only paid when one is not able to fast at all.

  • Is the expiatory payment for the old and the young alike?

Yes. If a young person due to health considerations is neither able to fast nor expected to regain the ability to fast, then he can pay the expiatory payment. The amount is the same as for an old person.

  • If someone misses a day of the fasting and intends to make it up for sure are they exempt from paying the expiatory payment since they will be making up the missed days of fasting?

The expiatory payment is only due when one is not able to fast at all. Since one has the ability to perform a make-up fast then there is no expiatory payment.

  • What is the amount to be paid for fidyah and does this amount differ depending on the madhab?

There is some difference of opinion on some of the details relating to the expiatory payment within different schools of though.

And Allah knows best,

[ref: Haskafi, Durr al-Mukhtar; Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar; Shaykhi Zadah, Majma al-Anhur; Shurunbulali, Imdad al-Fattah; Tahtawi, Hashiyat Maraqi; Zailai, Tabyeen al-Haqa’iq]

Waseem Hussain

Checked & Approved by Faraz Rabbani

http://seekersguidance.org/ans-blog/2010/09/12/brief-overview-of-expiatory-payments-fidya/

FYI here is a difference of opinion for different madhabs as well..

  1. A woman in the final stage of pregnancy and nursing mothers.

     The four schools say: If a pregnant or nursing woman fears harm

for her own health or that of her child, her fasting is valid though it is
permissible for her to refrain from fasting. If she opts for iftar, the
schools concur that she is bound to perform its qada’ later. They differ
regarding its substitute (fidyah) and atonement (kaffarah). In this regard
the Hanafis observe: It is not at all wajib. The Malikis are of the
opinion that it is wajib for a nursing woman, not for a pregnant one. The
Hanbalis and the Shafi’is say: Fidyah is wajib upon a pregnant and a
nursing woman only if they fear danger for the child; but if they fear
harm for their own health as well as that of the child, they are bound to
perform the qada’ only without being required to give fidyah. the fidyah
for each day is one mudd, which amounts to feeding one needy person
(miskeen).1

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter7/3.html

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to the above poster: you have NOT provided any proof from the Quran or hadith. its just another copy and paste from a website...without any references. thats the problem with Muslims these days they just follow anyone without checking what the Quran or hadith says.