Waise , I mean one gets to see it less now, but still there r songs that have the wordings…like if a guy is singing it, he’ll say “kyon challe gaye”…instead of “gayi”…Even like Awaz band had the same thing in some of its songs…I always used to think that its because of being shy or something …like thats how it is mentioned in poetry…U know saying one and thing and meaning something else…??But after reading some comments that Urdu Literature has done these for some time now..??Ok ..I guess I am confusing myself too.ANy comments or information guys??
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^ am confused ... as to what exactly your question is ..
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she is asking why the usage is mascuine rather than feminine
e.g. one son that comes to mind is vital signs, tum door thay
so it goes liek
tum door thay
to kya hua
tum mil gaye
toh kya hua
amber is wondering why is it not
tum door theen
to kya hua
tum mil gayeen
toh kya hua
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^ am confused ... as to what exactly your question is ..
Please don't concentrate on word "sex" in the subject line. ;)
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she is asking why the usage is mascuine rather than feminine
e.g. one son that comes to mind is vital signs, tum door thay
so it goes liek tum door thay to kya hua tum mil gaye toh kya hua
amber is wondering why is it not tum door theen to kya hua tum mil gayeen toh kya hua
Exactly...thats wat I want to know...Why is that??...Even sometimes in Atif Aslam's song like in Tere Bin...Is it becuz it rhymes better or why...shyness?..
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I know the answer but don’t know how to explain it 
may be I should go back to cafe to my jootha family…
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^^ at least try...:D
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alright lets see…
well in urdu poetry, these words such as “thay, gaye” etc. etc. are used as uni-sex words. Can be used for both.
Its the content of the poetry that tells you if its about a guy or a girl 
or if a guy is singing, just assume that its for a girl…
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^^ Really...its used for unisex...is it the old Urdu?...And then there r songs that the singer sings. like if its a guy...Like Khan=maj by Fuzion band , then he is singing from a girl's side...
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i don’t know 
don’t ask difficult questions. I don’t know how to explain
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its called roleplay.
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ok then…dont!!!
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Urdu Adab 101 .. too bad you either didn't take it or weren't fortunate enough to have teachers who could explain the whole masculinity deal with sher o shairee's mehboob
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I have taken Urdu 101 …which was caalled hurdu literature…:)…But I guess they never touched the subject:bummer:
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to my understanding the gender is not an issue when declaring feelings. Poetry is genderless zone. Its the artistic side of things. If you have taken literature then you would be aware of most poets disregarding the gender. Another reason could be that true feelings are above lust so it becomes unisex.Woh kya kehtay hain shairi dil ki awaz hai, u can't be precise, its not custom made.
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okay PA here is one more, so when some pathans speak urdu why do they have the gender reversed?
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^^ lolzz..that is true
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Laakh doori ho magar Ehd nibhaataY rehna
Jub bhee Baarish ho mera soug manaatay rehna
Tum gaYe ho tau sar-e-shaam ye aadat Thehri
Bus kinaaray pay khaRay haath hilaatay rehna
PS: Hamara Jootha mentioned the use of words only attached to Urdu “Poetry” … Poetry is most of the time supposed to be for both genders to relate to and hence use of masculanity…
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yara har koi idher udher ki maar raha hay...
simply put.... ALL ur romantic shayeri is done thinking about a mehboob,,, meaning beloved.... mehboob is a masculine word.. hence the whole shair o shayeri using the masculine kahan gaye, tum door thay etc.
Also, keep in mind that theres a concept of ishq e haqiqi involved as well.. which is the love of God... and God is masculine... hence the masculine usage of words/verbs...