Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

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Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Amber11

Waise , I mean one gets to see it less now, but still there r songs that have the wordings…like if a guy is singing it, he’ll say “kyon challe gaye”…instead of “gayi”…Even like Awaz band had the same thing in some of its songs…I always used to think that its because of being shy or something …like thats how it is mentioned in poetry…U know saying one and thing and meaning something else…??But after reading some comments that Urdu Literature has done these for some time now..??Ok ..I guess I am confusing myself too.ANy comments or information guys??

It is not only songs but for all Urdu and Arabic poetry you will find, Shair apni mehboba ky liy Muzakar ka sigha istymal krty hain Muanas ka nahi.Wajah if you read “Tareekhy Adaby Arabi” you will find I hope ky Dory Jahiliyat (Hazarat Muhammed :saw: ki amad o Nabuwat sy pehly ka zmana) main shair na sirf Orat ka hi sigha istymal krty bl ky Nam bhi likh dalty thy, Hazrat Umar:razi: ky dory khilafat main Hazra Umar Ny hukam jari frmaya ky shair shairi krty hoy muanas ka nahi Muzakar ka sigha istymal karin kion ky is sy Orton ki badnami hoti hy. Kai shair orton ka mazaq or on ko badnam krny ka sabab bnty thy. So os door ky bad ftohat bhi hoi tu Urdu shairi main bhi yeh rwayat par gai.Jahan tak meri haqeer pur taqseer ki maloomat ka taluq hy yehi wajy hy. (pthanon ka koi amal dakhal nahi:D)

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Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Anwaar Qureshi

Laakh doori ho magar Ehd nibhaataY rehna
Jub bhee Baarish ho mera soug manaatay rehna

Tum gaYe ho tau sar-e-shaam ye aadat Thehri
Bus kinaaray pay khaRay haath hilaatay rehna

PS: Hamara Jootha mentioned the use of words only attached to Urdu “Poetry” … Poetry is most of the time supposed to be for both genders to relate to and hence use of masculanity…

[Amber11]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Anwaar Qureshi

Laakh doori ho magar Ehd nibhaataY rehna
Jub bhee Baarish ho mera soug manaatay rehna

Tum gaYe ho tau sar-e-shaam ye aadat Thehri
Bus kinaaray pay khaRay haath hilaatay rehna

PS: Hamara Jootha mentioned the use of words only attached to Urdu “Poetry” … Poetry is most of the time supposed to be for both genders to relate to and hence use of masculanity…

So r u saying that in urdu…men and women r EQUAL:D:faizy:…

[AQ]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Amber11

So r u saying that in urdu…men and women r EQUAL:D:faizy:…

perhaps the pathetic emotional black mailing is to blame in this case

[Amber11]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Anwaar Qureshi

perhaps the pathetic emotional black mailing is to blame in this case

By that u mean the Urdu shairs na???..yes I agree!!

[Amber11]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

to my understanding the gender is not an issue when declaring feelings. Poetry is genderless zone. Its the artistic side of things. If you have taken literature then you would be aware of most poets disregarding the gender. Another reason could be that true feelings are above lust so it becomes unisex.Woh kya kehtay hain shairi dil ki awaz hai, u can't be precise, its not custom made.

How come the same concept would look weirder in English literature...that is if it were the use of Thou...and Thy!!!:)

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Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Amber11

By that u mean the** Urdu shairs **na???..yes I agree!!

gar apnaa kahaa aap khud hee samjhaY tau kiyaa samjhaY
mazaa kehnaY kaa tub hai, jub ik kahai aur doosraa samjhaY

[Mostar95]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

Funoon-e-latifa kay aksar log ................................ hotay hain! Iss waja say! I think.

[Amber11]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Anwaar Qureshi

gar apnaa kahaa aap khud hee samjhaY tau kiyaa samjhaY
mazaa kehnaY kaa tub hai, jub ik kahai aur doosraa samjhaY

Kiyaa…Sar ke uppar se ghuzzar giyaa:D…
Mine engrezi translation which still doesnt make any sense wat so ever…
home mine said u yourself understand so who will make u understand…
fun is when u say and other understands……now next step rearranging…

[Amber11]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Mostar95

Funoon-e-latifa kay aksar log … hotay hain! Iss waja say! I think.

Latifa ka fanoon…meaning fanoon-e-jokes:cb:

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Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Amber11

Kiyaa…Sar ke uppar se ghuzzar giyaa:D…
Mine engrezi translation which still doesnt make any sense wat so ever…
home mine said u yourself understand so who will make u understand…
fun is when u say and other understands……now next step rearranging…

that was gar - short form of AGAR

PS: Funoon-e-Lateefa = Fine Arts

[Croquet]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

How come the same concept would look weirder in English literature...that is if it were the use of Thou...and Thy!!!:)

english main tou baira hi paar hai verbs ko gender deay hi nahi jatay. u may have thou and thy, my child !

[Amber11]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Anwaar Qureshi

that was gar - short form of AGAR

PS: Funoon-e-Lateefa = Fine Arts

lekin I got it right ..didnt I??..BTW…doesnt make sense:bummer:

[Amber11]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Croquet

english main tou baira hi paar hai verbs ko gender deay hi nahi jatay. u may have thou and thy, my child !

U mean by the you’s……that is true!!

[Croquet]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

you is NOT a verb amber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i m havin very desified feelings.

[Amber11]

Re: Question about Urdu Songs wordings,same sex ones?

@Croquet

you is NOT a verb amber!!!
i m havin very desified feelings.

..U know I lost my thoughts as I was typing…all of a sudden word you popped up in my head.. ..…donot waarry ..I caaan read hinglish