Query on honey being declared haram

I was listening to a lecture by Yusuf Estes on the topic of women.

http://www.islamhouse.org/en/audio/en1828.ram

^Pls forward to 19.00 minutes onwards to know what I am referring to.

He mentioned that the Prophet (pbuh) was told that his breath smelt bad after he came home from his other wife. He then declared honey to be haram?!

And then Allah revealed the Ayah

Shakir 66:1] O Prophet! why do you forbid (yourself) that which Allah has made lawful for you; you seek to please your wives; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[Yusufali 66:1] O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
[Pickthal 66:1] O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

I have heard of this incident earlier but I thought that he Mohammad (pbuh) having the akhlaq he has just stopped eating it himself just to please his wives. I have never heard he actually declared it haram???

So I was wondering if anyone knew the source of what Yusuf Estes said.

Thanks.

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HOW IS IT POSSILE THAT HONEY IS HARAM AS ITR IS SAID THAT HONEY IS THE CURE OF 99 DIEASES IF THERE R 100 DIEASES .THERE R ALSO HADIS SAYING THAT HONEY IS VERY CURING.I GUESS U HAVE MITAKEN SOMETHING

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yea exactly..honey cant be haraaam....cuz i know its not :)

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I heard Honey has the cure for every almost every disease! get ur facts straight pal!

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that verse relates to something else....

either yusuf estes got it wrong (i have found him to be wrong on other issues too) or u misunderstood it...

nothing haram about honey....

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it is not haram !!
the story i hv heard is that
one of the prophets wives didnt like the smell of it so he stopped eating it and thn ALlah sent a revelation telling him that he cant make anything haram just for his own purposes

smthn like that....

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come on, honey is not bad.

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nope, Honey has so many benefits, and the Prophet Pbuh has urged the consumption of Honey.

I go with Armughal. Never heard Yousuf Estes though, so I dun't know if hez wrong on some issues.

Honey, as far as i've heard and know, is not haraam.

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I think you guys have misunderstood me. I know it’s not haram coz the Quran already says it’s lawful. :smack: What I am saying is whether our Prophet [pbuh] ever really declared it haram? What I knew what that he [pbuh] just stopped eating it to pls his wives but he didn’t declare it haram before the ayah was revealed. From this lecture it is the first time I ever heard that he did indeed declare it haram and Allah had to reveal a ayah to tell him it’s not. That’s kinda hard to believe. So that’s why I was asking if anyone knew the source of of what Yusuf Estes said.

Get my point?

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He didnot declare it haram. He forbid it for himself to please his wives. Well, he declared it as Shifa means cure for most deseases. He used it as a medicine for many deseases in his time.

So how could he declare it haram?

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did this guy also given reference to what he said in his lecture??

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(Please listen b**ng = (b r a n d i n g) and I do not know why this word can not be viewed here)
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Sahih Al-Bukhari 007.065.342 Narrated 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle used to love sweet edible things and honey.

Sahih Al-Bukhari 007.071.584 Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: (The Prophet said), "Healing is in three things: A gulp of honey, cupping, and bng with fire (cauterizing)." But I forbid my followers to use (cauterization) bng with fire." Sahih Al-Bukhari 007.071.588 Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: A man came to the Prophet and said, "My brother has some abdominal trouble." The Prophet said to him "Let him drink honey." The man came for the second time and the Prophet said to him, 'Let him drink honey." He came for the third time and the Prophet said, "Let him drink honey." He returned again and said, "I have done that ' The Prophet then said, "Allah has said the truth, but your brother's abdomen has told a lie. Let him drink honey." So he made him drink honey and he was cured.

It is found that mixture of Honey and Cinnamon cures most of the diseases. Honey is produced in most of the countries of the world. **
**Ayurvedic as well as Yunani medicine have been using honey as a vital medicine for centuries. Scientists of today also accept honey as a Ram Ban (very effective) medicine for all kinds of diseases. Honey can be used without any side effects for any kind of diseases.

Today's science says that even though honey is sweet, if taken in the right dosage as a medicine, it does not harm diabetic patients also. A famous magazine named Weekly World News published in **Canada**** dated *17 January, 95* has given a list of diseases that can be cured by Honey and Cinnamon as researched by western scientists.**

  **ARTHRITIS: **Take one part honey to two parts of luke warm water and add a small teaspoon of cinnamon powder, make a paste and massage it on the itching part of the body slowly. It is noticed that the pain recedes within a minute or two. Or arthritis patients may daily, morning and night take one cup of hot water with two spoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinnamon powder. If drunk regularly even chronic arthritis can be cured. In a recent research done at the Copenhagen  University, it was found that when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of one tablespoon. Honey and half teaspoon cinnamon powder before breakfast, they found that within a week out of the 200 people so treated practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain and within a month, mostly all the patients who could not walk or move around because of arthritis started walking without pain.

**HAIR LOSS: **Those suffering from hair loss or baldness, may apply a paste of hot olive oil, one tablespoon of honey, one teaspoon of cinnamon powder before bath and keep it for approx. 15 min and then wash the hair. It was found very effective if kept for 5 mins. also.

BLADDER INFECTIONS: Take two tablespoons of cinnamon powder and one teaspoon of honey in a glass of luke warm water and drink it. It destroys the germs of the bladder.

**TOOTHACHE: **Make a paste of one teaspoon of cinnamon powder and five teaspoons of honey and apply on the aching tooth. This may be done 3 times a day daily till such time that the tooth has stopped aching.

**CHOLESTEROL: **Two tablespoons of honey and three teaspoons of Cinnamon Powder mixed in 16 ounces of tea water, if given to a cholesterol patient, it reduces the level of cholesterol in the blood by 10% within 2 hours. As mentioned for arthritic patients, if taken 3 times a day any chronic cholesterol is cured.

As per the information received in the said journal, pure honey taken with food daily relieves complains of cholesterol.

**COLDS: **Those suffering from common or severe colds should take one tablespoon luke warm honey with 1/4 teaspoon cinnamon powder daily for 3 days. This process will cure most chronic cough, cold and clear the sinuses.

**INFERTILITY: **Yunani and Ayurvedic have been using honey for years in medicine to strengthen the semen of men. If impotent men regularly take two tablespoon of honey before sleeping, their problem will be solved. In China, Japan and Far-East countries, women who do not conceive and to strengthen the uterus have been taking cinnamon powder for centuries. Women who cannot conceive may take a pinch of cinnamon powder in half teaspoon of honey and apply it on the gums frequently throughout the day, so that it slowly mixes with the saliva and enters the body. A couple in Maryland, America had no children for 14 years and had left hope of having a child of their own. When told about this process husband and wife started taking honey and cinnamon as stated above, the wife conceived after a few months and had twins at full term.

**UPSET STOMACH: **Honey taken with cinnamon powder cures stomachache and also clears stomach ulcers from the root.

**GAS: **According to the studies done in India & J
apan, it is revealed that if honey is taken with cinnamon powder the stomach is relieved of gas.

**HEART DISEASES: **Make a paste of honey and cinnamon powder, apply on bread or chappati instead of jelly and jam and eat it regularly for breakfast. It reduces the cholesterol in the arteries and saves the patient from heart attack. Also those who have already had an attack, if they do this process daily, are kept miles away from the next attack. Regular use of the above process relieves loss of breath and strengthens the heart beat. In America and Canada, various nursing homes have treated patients successfully and have found that due to the increasing age the arteries and veins which lose their flexibility and get clogged are revitalized.

**IMMUNE SYSTEM: **Daily use of honey and cinnamon powder strengthens the immune system and protects the body from bacteria and viral attacks. Scientists have found that honey has various vitamins and iron in large amounts. Constant use of honey strengthens the white blood corpuscles to fight bacteria and viral diseases.

**INDIGESTION: **Cinnamon powder sprinkled on two tablespoons of honey taken before food, relieves acidity and digests the heaviest of meals.

**INFLUENZA: **A scientist in Spain has proved that honey contains a natural ingredient which kills the influenza germs and saves the patient from flu.

**LONGEVITY: **Tea made with honey and cinnamon powder, when taken regularly arrests the ravages of old age. Take 4 spoons of honey, 1spoon of cinnamon powder and 3 cups of water and boil to make like tea. Drink 1/4 cup, 3 to 4 times a day. It keeps the skin fresh and soft and arrests old age. Life span also increases and even if a person is 100 years old, starts performing the chores of a 20 year old.

**PIMPLES: **Three tablespoons of honey and one teaspoon of cinnamon powder paste. Apply this paste on the pimples before sleeping and wash it next morning with warm water. If done daily for two weeks, it removes pimples from the root.

**SKIN INFECTIONS: **Eczema, ringworm and all types of skin infections are cured by applying honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts on the affected parts.

**WEIGHT LOSS: **Daily in the morning, 1/2 hour before breakfast on an empty stomach and at night before sleeping, drink honey and cinnamon powder boiled in one cup water. If taken regularly it reduces the weight of even the most obese person. Also drinking of this mixture regularly does not allow the fat to accumulate in the body even though the person may eat a high calorie diet.

**CANCER: **Recent research in Japan and Australia has reveled that advanced cancer of the stomach and bones have been cured successfully. Patients suffering from these kinds of cancer should daily take one tablespoon of honey with one teaspoon of cinnamon powder for one month 3 times a day.

**FATIGUE: **Recent studies have shown that the sugar content of honey is more helpful than detrimental to the body strength. Senior citizens who take honey and cinnamon power in equal parts are more alert and flexible. Dr.Milton who has done research says that half tablespoon honey taken in one glass of water and sprinkled with cinnamon powder, taken daily after brushing and in the afternoon at about 3.00 p.m. when the vitality of the body starts decreasing, increases the vitality of the body within a week.
BAD BREATH: People of South America, first thing in the morning gargle with one teaspoon of honey and cinnamon powder mixed in hot water. So their breath stays fresh throughout the day.

**HEARING LOSS: **Daily morning and night honey and cinnamon powder taken in equal parts restores hearing.

Re: Query on honey being declared haram

The above it said b*****ng (b r a n d i n g) two times once with fire. Seriously why can not this word be viewed. Now I need the evidence for considering it to be Haraam. I myself has eated honey before.

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It is NOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT haram.

According to him it **was **declared haram by him and then Allah sent an ayah telling him NO.

Pls refer to the ayah above.

:smack2: Meray ko log samaj thay kiyoun nahin hain. :frowning:

So people

**IT

IS

NOT

HARAM!!!

**Refer to Post #9 to know what I mean.

Did I say

**HONEY
IS
NOT
HARAM!!!
**

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Assalam O Aalaikom brother,

How are you? Please read deeply and this is the evidence from Hadith considering it to be not Haraam. The above has provided many benefits for eating honey and I myself has eaten honey. I want to eat today.

Take Care,
Allah Hafiz!

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Well Brother Yousuf Estes is also IRF orator. May be you got him wromg or he had used a wrong word in his debate.

http://www.irf.net/irf/orators/index.htm

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Jazakallah Khair brother for sharing. I hope they have all Wahhabi beliefs.

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I found non of them preaching Wahabi ism. They are all muslims. Because to make a sect in Islam is forbidden.

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Yes brother, but we have to follow a sect that exists. Not just Quran and Sunnah on our own way or else it will make different beliefs.

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When no sect is allowed, how you can say We Have TO Follow a sect? Tell me which sect did Sayyedna Muhammad :saw: followed? I have no argument about 4 major scholars. We can follow any of them. I say we should follow all of them.

But to make or adobt a sect is Haram.