Qoum e Aad

Ali_Syed · April 30, 2012, 4:59am

What do you guys know about Qoum e Aad, ii is believed that these people used to be very big. I am not sure but there are a few pictures on the internet of some skeletons which people claim are of those people, dont know about the authenticity though.

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 11:43am

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Interesting. As far as I remember, they were Arabs probably from Yemen area and Allah sent Hazrat Hud (AS) to them. Quran mentions their prosperity and strong physique. Will go through the relevant Surah for further information.

PS: Haroon Yahya also worked on the archeological sites mentioned in Quran.

the_kaur · April 30, 2012, 11:54am

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In Hindu philosophy, it is mentioned that people in Satyug used to be of huge size, this cannot be skeleton of any of them as they cremate bodies:D

Tall people hardly brought change in world, it was smaller people like Napolean, Hitler brought big changes:)

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 12:02pm

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And Indr Gandhi used to wear high heels

the_kaur · April 30, 2012, 12:11pm

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Indira was Kashmiri, most of them have good height, Indira’s fashion was no match to Benazir’s. Every time Abdali attacked Sikh reciprocated. Indira attacked once and matter settled. Super strategist Henry Kissinger got so frustrated by her attitude that he even called him old witch and *****

Pandits are natural competition to Jews:D

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 12:21pm

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This reminds me a theory by famous relgious scholar Dr Israr Ahmed that Brahmins of India might be one of the 12 tribes of Bani Isreal (Jews)

the_kaur · April 30, 2012, 12:29pm

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And they claim that they came out from supreme creator Brhama’s head. Most authentic representative of Brahm(god). And if a devout jew comea to meet devout brahmin, pandit will serve in separate plate and glasses meant for Mlecchas(untouchable, pig eaters). And will even give authentic reasons for discrimination:D

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 12:42pm

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Dr Asrar’s conclusion was based on the fact that when Hazrat Musa (AS) went on mount Toor for getting commandments and left the Bani Isreal under supervision of his brother Hazrat Haroon (AS), they started worshipping a calf made up of the ornamnets of egyptians women, which were taken by Bani Isreal’s women before exodus (leaving egypt).

When Hazra Musa returned and found Bani Isreal worshipping the calf, he became angry. Finally, he asked worshiper of calf to burn it. Dr Asrar took this burning tradition, as one of the basis of his conclusion that Brahmins might be Jews.

the_kaur · April 30, 2012, 12:54pm

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I tried to google “Dr Israr Ahmed on Brahmin”

The first link is about Islamic renaissance from India, and how Brahmins are impediment to it

The Third Islamic Renaissance By Ghulam Muhammed
Al-Jazeerah, April 16, 2005
Mohtaram Dr. Israr Ahmed Saheb,
As Salaamu alaikum
I am going through your article on your tour of India, first published in Misaq, Lahore and republished here by Afkar-e-Milli, Delhi.
A few words in reference to the main theme picked up by you:
I refer to your quotation of Shah Waliuallah’s opinion on Brahmins and other caste Hindus, first accepting Islam — as the main catalyst for total change the India’s composition in favour of Islam. This is a very potent point and people who are engaged in Da’wah work are acutely cognizant of the potential. An in-depth working on the subject with action plan could definitely bear fruit, Insha Allah.
It is praiseworthy that Dr. Zakir has studied Vedic literature and has been successful in coming out with comparative studies projecting basic monotheistic philosophy of Sanatan Dharam. Unfortunately, his debating successes has completely undermined his image with the well-meaning Brahmin scholars and rendered him on the sidelines of any serious attempt to carry out this most rewarding mission. That part could be improved, one hopes through your esteemed guidance.
Just a hint on the major impediment to any effort in this direction: Brahmins have been ruling class, for the last 50 years in India. They treat Muslims as their main political adversary. Their antagonism against Islam and Muslims should be understood and appropriately responded to, both on religious, social and political levels.
A second corollary of the same theme is, Maulana Shams Naved Usmani’s belief that the third renaissance of Islam will come from India. We had known that in history, the 2 other renaissances were centered on two major power centers, as you have correctly pointed out: Baghdad and Turkey. It is only the master design of Allah that pieces are falling in place to help towards that goal of the Third Islamic Renaissance.
The two major related developments might be noted:
(1) India, poised to be a big economic powerhouse, is forced to initiate and maintain friendly relations with its neighbors, most of whom are Muslim populated and ruled.
(2) The softening of borders between India and Pakistan is a move towards de facto reunification of the subcontinent, where 500 million Muslims will hold a commanding position impacting on governance and therefore political, social, religious and lastly, possibly economic life of the area. India’s 4% Brahmins are already feeling their inadequacy in carrying forth the burden of the new role that they have taken up in their greed and self-preservation. They will have to come to terms with Muslims and Islam.
A Muslim Think Tank could work up, a new strategic plan for the whole Muslim world stretching from Morocco to Indonesia in the first phase, with Indian sub-continent and its Muslims as leading the Third Islamic renaissance, heralding a humane, just and honour-bound future for all mankind.
I have come across at least two Indian Think Tank projects, which are trying to project India as the emerging ‘super’ power. Both project reports were prepared by private NGO members — one of the ‘liberal’ kind and the other from the ‘Hindutva’ group. Both studies suffer while trying to ignore Muslims in the subcontinent and the third world around them. Unless they fill in the Muslim component, they know they will fall flat. I have yet to see any such attempt from the Islamic circle. If some such study in already there, I hope, it would be made public. (After all the criminal gang of Jewish No-cons did had confidence to publish their plans of ‘New American Century’ on the open website.)
Brahmins are acutely aware of their inadequacies in the new role. They are perturbed that even Samuel Huntington, while preparing his first draft of his ‘Clash of civilization’ had completely ignored Hindu civilization. On his visit to Bombay, Dr. Rafiq Zakaria, who had arranged his presentation at Nehru Center and had invited some prominent Hindutva heavyweights to attend Huntington lecture, pointed this out to Dr. Huntington. Dr. Huntington took the hint and declared to the predominantly Hindu audience –‘I will work that in”.
The Western obsession against Islamic civilization has come at a time, when economics, the bedrock of western civilization, is not favoring them. Accordingly Muslims too should realize their own potential and make preparation for their global comeback.
    Yours sincerely,
     
    Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai, India
    <[EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected]>

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 1:03pm

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I think I’ve heard the same thing (Brahmin might be Jews) from Maulana Modudi. Let me reach home to check Tafseer e Quran.

the_kaur · April 30, 2012, 1:05pm

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Mount toor, is that hill where moosa(as) asked allah to show his Jalwa, and when Allah showed it moosa(as) lost his conscious:confused:(story as told by the champion:))
where is it located??

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 1:10pm

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I think mount Toor is situated on border of Jordan & Egypt?

Whats the confusion in the story told by champion? Mujhe bhi Champion jaisi saas chahiye

the_kaur · April 30, 2012, 1:18pm

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Then your saas must be madrassa educated, as champion studied in Madrassa till her class nine and then state board:D
Few days ago I got to know about importance of Jerusalem, about Al-aqsa, Temple Mount and Church of Sculpture:) when we were discussing about movie “Kingdom of heaven” and I asked what was the pilgrimage site because of which Saladin was interested in Jerusalem:)

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 1:22pm

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You should read karen Armstrong’s Jerusalem (One City - Three Faiths). This book is the best covering importance of the city from Muslims, Jews and Christian perspective

PS: Madarsa saas might be a talebaan

the_kaur · April 30, 2012, 1:28pm

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Infact the term like Qari saheb I got to know from her, Her mother was teacher of mathematics in Madrassa as well, During that time Kashmir didn’t had government school. Now even India needs reform in Madrassa but I don’t think it is possible may be except Madrassas operated by Ahemadis:)

Ali_Syed · April 30, 2012, 1:31pm

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I think the discovery of the giant is a hoax for now. “Skeleton of Giant” Is Internet Photo Hoax](National Geographic | National Geographic)

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 3:35pm

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But Ali Islamic traditions tell us that in ancient times people used to be taller. Even if you google for graves of prophets, you will find longest graves.

Ali_Syed · April 30, 2012, 4:06pm

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I know there are some graves in Punjab which are quite tall, and people believe that the people used to be quite tall but it would be interesting to see some proof in the form of skeletons though.

the_kaur · April 30, 2012, 4:30pm

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I doubt if skeletal remains can be found, now skeletons might have converted into crude oil:D

muqawwee123 · April 30, 2012, 4:33pm

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Now I know why Arab countries have huge oil reserves Big skeletons are directly proportionate to high oil reserves