Putting the Noble Quran on the floor of a mosque

[funguy]

Re: Putting the Noble Quran on the floor of a mosque

No. You can open up a Quran and read it yourself in arabic.

[AQ]

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@funguy

No. You can open up a Quran and read it yourself in arabic.

that totally contradicts with the “interpreted” translation that is being put up. Atleast read the arabic yourself before putting it up. Thanks.!

[funguy]

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DO you put the arabic for every translation or interpretation you quote here?

[AQ]

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@funguy

DO you put the arabic for every translation or interpretation you quote here?

whenever someone questions, I DO… browse around… or use the search feature.. thanks.

[funguy]

Re: Putting the Noble Quran on the floor of a mosque

And listen, I don't want you or any other mullah tell me how to interpret Quran. I will read and interpret as it makes sense to me. So save it, will ya?

[AQ]

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@funguy

And listen, I don’t want you or any other mullah tell me how to interpret Quran. I will read and interpret as it makes sense to me. So save it, will ya?

Khud ko badaltaY naheeN
Quran badal daitaY haiN
Yeh Faqeehaan-e-Haram
!!!

[funguy]

Re: Putting the Noble Quran on the floor of a mosque

I can say the same for you!

Listen, Quran is the book of Allah. So don't try to speak on His behalf. Let everyone read it to their understanding. Why are you so sure that how you interpret it, is the right way?

[AQ]

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@funguy

I can say the same for you!

go ahead… but your translation at the moment currently contradicts with the literal words of the ayah.

[Captain1]

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@funguy

And listen, I don’t want you or any other mullah tell me how to interpret Quran. I will read and interpret as it makes sense to me. So save it, will ya?

Funguy, just a question, when you go “intrepret as it makes sense to me”, do you dig history of ‘words’ as they were used in the time of Quran’s revelation or do you open dictionary and ‘interpret’ the verse under study?

[AQ]

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ok then a question:

"pure of mind can touch " meaning if someone's mind is not pure and he touches it then it will be sinful for him.

Someone with an impure mind who can get GUIDANCE after reading (obviously he/she will have to touch to read) should not touch according the COMMAND in QURAN because he/she may get sinned ????

Interesting.

[funguy]

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@Anwaar Qureshi

ok then a question:

"pure of mind can touch " meaning if someone’s mind is not pure and he touches it then it will be sinful for him.

dude, I thought you were smarter than that. It’s not about touching and committing sin. The touch means, ‘understanding’… only the pure at heart will be able to touch the teachings.

Captain1 - due study has been done to keep the prevalent meaning of words at the time of revelation. It’s definitely not the literal translation but keeping the context of the time of revelation.

[AQ]

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@funguy

dude, I thought you were smarter than that. It’s not about touching and committing sin. The touch means, ‘understanding’… only the pure at heart will be able to touch the teachings.

wow.. interpretation within interpretation… great interpretation. anymore?

[_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah]

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@funguy

And listen, I don’t want you or any other mullah tell me how to interpret Quran. I will read and interpret as it makes sense to me. So save it, will ya?

Do u know what a mullah is?

[armughal]

Re: Putting the Noble Quran on the floor of a mosque

touch = understand

[system]

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@Meemsheen

Assalam Alaikum

Its true that the Arabs don’t think putting the Quran kareem on the floor is bad, but they do teach their children not to hold it as a writing pad, I saw one grown up Morocan girl using it as a sort of a platform and then put a piece of paper to write on that piece of paper and her mother immidiately told her not to, but the same mother never told her not to put it on the floor!! There are ‘Kursi-ul Quran’ kept in the masjid, you know the little book shaped wooden things to keep the Quran infront of you to read so that its not at your feet level etc. but the Arab women simply ignore them. I am the only one keeping it on a Kursi-ul Quran while reading it.

I don’t know if there are any Kuri_ul Quran in our Mosque, which is a Marocon mosque. But then again, I don’t go there often.

My parents brought some when they performed hadj about ten years ago, but I must say, none of us has ever used them either. I’m not used to sitting on the floor much. We always sit on the sofa or on a chair when we read the Holy Quran.

[system]

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In our school there was a big debate when it was allowed for students to write on their copies of Quran, I personally thought that it helped the students mark important Ayas and chapters and enhanced their understanding and familiarity with Quran. But then there were the IVI teachers who though that it was disrespectful.

I've made some marks too in my copy, I used a soft pencil so I can erase it again. I see nothing wrong with marking. But then again, that might seem unrespectful t someone else.

The Indian-Subcontinent Version of Islam (IVI) puts a lot of burden on the logistical aspect of Quran, its not that we should intentionally try to disrespect the book, be that any book, but we just have to make sure that the message in the book is always more important than the "Kurrsi" and "Green lace wala ghulaf" or having Quran collecting dust on the highest shelf.

Desi people show more respect to quran but they don’t read it that often with understanding (I don’t consider reading Quran without understanding the meanings as actual reading). Arabs read Quran more often but don’t show respect to Quran that much. I have seen several times Arabs holding Quran with out wadu and putting Quran in places not that clean. I ask myself which is better. Treating Quran so secred and putting it on the top of everything and let it collect dust or treating Quran as a normal book of guidance and read it more often with or without wadu. I would take the later one.

That's true.

Well, maybe I am making a fuss over nothing. Like people say here, making an elephant out of an ant. I don't know.

Still, I'm curious to the way people treated anything with an aya written on it. If I remember it correctly, weren't aya's written on pieces of would, stone, anything? How were those pieces treated, were they put on the ground?
If so, then we really are going over the top I guess.

[S02]

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Wondering if this Hadith (from Sahih Muslim) applies to menstruating women touching the Quran as well:
Book 3, Number 0587:

'A'isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said to me: Get me the mat from the mosque. I said: I am menstruating. Upon this he remarked: Your menstruation is not in your hand.

If it does, then touching the Quran as long as your hands are clean does not seem to be a problem.

[OMG]

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@armughal

arab people usually dont consider it inappropriate to keep a copy of Quran on the floor of the mosque while reading it or when they need to do sajda-e-tilawat…
all that dont put the Quran down, dont turn ur back to the Quran and keep the Quran in a high shelf so no one can reach it, is found in the sub-continent…
sometimes one does feel that these arabs shud show more respect to the Holy Book…

touching the Quran is not allowed except in a state of purity as mentioned in the Holy Quran…

Quran 56:77-79
Most surely it is an honored Quran
In a book that is protected
None shall touch it save the purified ones.

May I say something? The line above ***None shall touch it save the purified ones ***is not for Quran but for Lawh. As non muslims say that in your Quran it is written that unpurified people cant access that Book and if we are unpurified as your religion says. And if we buy that book from a store and keep it in hand, the order of your God is been dismissed and it is not true. We can touch it.

This Ayah does not direct towards Quran but Lawh where no one can access accept the purified (allowed Angels). Hope I made any sense.

[funguy]

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@armughal

touch = understand

So per your definition, a menstruating woman can read and have a non menstruating woman turn the pages for her?

[Captain1]

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@funguy

So per your definition, a menstruating woman can read and have a non menstruating woman turn the pages for her?

and by your definition (touch=understanding) a man who “understands” a woman has to take shower?