Purging GS of Extremists

[Sara516]

Re: Purging GS of Extremists

@PyariCgudia

Sara516: Although I don’t like to see people rebuking Islam as totally false and a total made-up sham, people have the right to believe what they want to. You can only ask someone to believe in Islam, you can’t force them. Force is not permitted in Islam itself.

So rejecting something that is in the Quran, doubting the validity of hte Prophet, saying most hadith are worthless doesn’t seem xtreme to you?

First off, ultra-liberal is not what I equate with what you just described…

Mullahs who describe people as ultra-liberal are girls who wear jeans and a t-shirt to Miccy-D’s to get a McFlurry with their male college friends.

And to be a hadith rejector does not necessarily mean that person doesn’t believe in the Quran. I personally do not outright reject hadith (I might as well address it, since Sharaabi was basically talking about me, although he’s not decent enough to just be str8forward in his accusation), I don’t believe that State has the right to ENFORCE and make into LAW (i.e. if you break it there is some punishment for it) based upon something that is in some Hadith, but is not directly mentioned in the Quran. Examples would be enforcing that musicians are not permitted to make music (as you see happening in NWFP), or enforcing a burqa dress-code or enforcing namaz by sending in mohtasibs in to monitor people’s daily habits (also in the process of happening in NWFP).

Now what I say is the definition of extremist, I have already posted it - please refer to that definition. An extremist is one that will use violence to make you believe what they believe. On GS board, they will use violent language and threats.

Okay, you say noone has the right to force religion down your throat, that’s fair enough. Well if someone says my religion is false and made up, a sham, I have every right to kick their ass, no? That makes me an extremist now for using violence to reiterate my point fine. Maybe you can handle stupid comments about your religion but most of us wouldn’t.

Another thing, there is liberal behavior and liberal beliefs, neither of which always coincide with each other; one can have “liberal” behavior but traditional beliefs tha they are straying from and vice versa. Wearing jeans to McDs with guy firends can be considered “liberal” behavior according to some; now if that girl thinks dressing to show off ur body is okay, eating haram is okay, dating guys etc etc is okay,t hen that is liberal.