Punjabi Vocatives (Ex: Oye Sohneya!)

Anyone know more about these? I suppose you might have them in Urdu also? Kind of hard to explain, but a general rule is to take a word, make it plural and use it to call someone. Like…

Munda, which becomes Mundeyo
Kuri , which becomes Kuriye
Jatt, which becomes Jatta

Do you hear these used in every day speech? I use them all the time, peppering my speech with such words. Like I’ll greet my friends with something like “O main kya ki haal hai badhshaho!” or “Oye Jatta, kiddan!?”

*We also find this rule being applied to people’s names. You see it a lot, especially in some Punjabi movies. Like in Maula Jatt, you see people calling him as “Mauleya!” *

I sometimes do this also with some of my friends, provided their names have a nice ring to them. Doesn’t work with some names obviously.

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You also use kiddan??? were your ancestors from faisalabad??

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@Ali bai
My Dadu was from Rawalpindi, my Dadi from Jalandhar. They never said it, so I may have picked it up from friends or movies or something though. Never thought about that. You guys are from lyallpur?

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kuriyon ko daale dana… :hehe:

Mundya dupatta chad mera :hayaa:

NOOR JAHAN,NADEEM - MUNDEYA DUPATTA CHAD - YouTube

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lols kiddan :)

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Oh wow apparently there are actual rules for these. Like grammatical rules. And not just in Standard Punjabi either, even my Multani book lays out some rules.

Like the word Munda, for example. (Munda means boy)

Munda: When talking to A boy, it becomes Mundiya, When talking to more than one boy (boys) it becomes **Mundiyo
**Kuri: When talking to A Girl, it becomes Kuriye, When talking to more than one girl (girls) it becomes **Kuriyo

**:smack: I just lost the page for the Multani ones

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Mudiyon te kuriyo sab bhangRa pao :icono: :nuch:

and calling Munda = waaaaaaaaaaaaay mundia
and calling kuri = niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii kuriye

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Here we go, here are some Multani examples:

*1. A masculine in the singular makes the vocative by adding "aa" to the oblique form, example:
E sachcheaa rabba (O True God), Potraa (O Son), BachRaa (Darling), Khudaaeaa (O God)

  1. A Feminine in the singular sometimes makes the vocative by adding e to the root, example:
    Ghoriye (O Mare)

  2. The Plural, whether masculine or feminine, makes the vocative by adding O or vo to the oblique form, example:
    Potro (O Sons)*

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@Muqa
Right right. And there's actually a rule for the Ve/Ni thing also, trying to find the page.

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for ve = Ve sab to sohniya

We sab toon soniya - YouTube
for ni = ni sassiye tera lutiya shehr Bhanbhor

Amjad Parvez & Mushtaq Hashmi—Tera Lutteya E Shahar Bhambor

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Here we go, these are called interjections.

In calling to a person, the interjection (Oh!) varies according to the gender of the person addressing or addressed

Man Calling to Man: Vo
Addressed to a woman: Ni
Woman calling a man: Ve
Woman calling to a woman: vaN, aRii

(This is for Multani by the way, not sure if it applies to standard Punjabi)

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what is mean by kiddan?

waise ptv ki dramon me nazir ko nazire hote kai baar suna hai

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kiddan= kidhar

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I heard that ARi as ni ARiye in one of the Mahiya.. saade tevehRe

Surinder Kaur and Parkash Kaur Saade Taan Vehre Wich Mudh

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And some more on the Multani Interjections.

Husband and wife avoid calling each other by name, but if possible bring in a son's name, examples:

Ve sher muhammad de peoaa (O Sher Muhammad's Father!)
Ni sher muhammad di maa (O Sher Muahmmad's Mother!)

E is used in sorrow, joy or wonder, examples:

E sachchea khudaaeaa ( O True God!)
E paak parwardigaaraa (O True Cherisher!)
E Allah Saa(n)iaa(n) (O Lord God!)

I can post more if anyone is actually interested in this :D

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Allah Sain :)

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@muqa
You like Bibi Surinder Kaur's songs??? She's like.. our Indian Punjabi Noor Jehan! I knew you had good taste but wow! :)

@Ninja
The way we use Kiddan in Punjabi, it's like the English "What's up?" or "Sup?"

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you know gurumukhi?

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kida'n= kidhar

kiddan= what's up

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yes she got lovely voice. Most of her songs were sung by Musarrat Nazir in 80s in Pakistan.

kiddan equal kedh'haan is also used in Sindhi with same meaning