You Sunnis are pathetic... Make no sense, and have no argument at alll...
Question for Ahmedis, where should I go to convert to Ahmadiyat?
Question for the Sunnis concerning physical miracles, such as the prophet asscent into Heaven... Why does god break the rules of Physics, just for the sake of a trip to heaven? Wouldnt have it been easier, and make more sense to simply comply with the laws of Physics and have a spirtual ascent.. Remember that generally, the simplest solution and the simplest explantion is the right one.
And from my understanding, God does not break the laws of Nature.
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You Sunnis are pathetic... Make no sense, and have no argument at alll...
Question for Ahmedis, where should I go to convert to Ahmadiyat?
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hell..
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*Originally posted by Degas: *
hell..
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Ill see you there ;)
Besides, I didnt ask you:) See why your so Pathetic?
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*Originally posted by PaKpatriot1: *
Ill see you there ;)
Besides, I didnt ask you:) See why your so Pathetic?
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pathetic! dunno who is pathetic but categorizing all sunnis in responce to few is pathetic to me.. good and bad people are everywhere
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pathetic! dunno who is pathetic but categorizing all sunnis in responce to few is pathetic to me.. good and bad people are everywhere
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Well, you dont know what your talking about, and most of the Sunnis that argue their point, or just argue ar simply pathetic. Get beyond your narrow mindednes and you will realize that none of the Sunnis here have a point to make... They just hurl insults.
Your only here to satisfy your egos. The Ahmedis give links, are open minded and stay calm.
So who is Pathetic and who reflects true Islam?
Your single worded response in the last post speak volumes. Why not go back to some other thread, because your obviously not here for to learn or discuss...
And I agree there are many good Sunnis out there, they are my friends and family... But in general, I see nothing in Sunnis but intlorance, and hypocracy.
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Your single worded response in the last post speak volumes. Why not go back to some other thread, because your obviously not here for to learn or discuss...
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it was response to ur response to all sunnis.. check all threads about ahmadis including these u will see my responses.. but havent seen u here a lot.. I ask questions from ahmadis authentic websites only...
o and who broke the laws of Nature when Jesus was born???
or when he woke up the dead???
or when Moosa’s stick turned into a snake???
or when Muhammad :saw: split the moon???
and this is another of ur kafirana belief that Allah is restricted by “laws of nature”… :nono:
and dont try to act smart by already being an ahmadi and then asking about converting to ahmedi…
such fools who want to convert to ahmadiyat r still very rare species…
for me it´s a wonder of Allah(swt) than break the law of the nature
I wonder, if he woke up the dead, then why he couldnt save himself ALONE form cross???
so, Allah(swt) always help his Prophets!!
I dont know about this now, may be u can provide me more about this. BUT if he could spilt the moon and go physicly for Miraj, I then wonder, why he didnt fly from Makkah to medina, or better faught against Kufar!!! ![]()
since ur too occupied in believing Mirza’s hundreds of thousands of miracles that he cliamed he performed!! It is a definite break of all laws to perform such a number of miracles.. ur trying to judge Holy Prophets (PBUH) miracle which Hazrat Abu Bakr (RA) belived in a second but not Mirza’s millions of miracles..
This reference is from authentic Ahamadis website..
check heading.. Tazkaratush-Shahadaten and read about more than 2 hundred thousand signs he claimed he showed!!! Can any human believe that??? I have never read any messenger of God boast about miracles.. but in Mirza’s writings there are so many instances where he boasts about his signs and miracles?
Assalam o Alikum
Once again, I wonder how this So called muslim get ther faith from. You guyz cant even proove from a SINGLE worse from Quran that A PROPHET can decend bodily from the HEAVEN...ONLY ONE AYYET BRING TO SHOW US WHERE WE ARE WRONG. BRING ONE AYET THAT STATES A PROPHET CAN COME BODILY FROM HEAVEN OR EVEN A HINT.
Stop making fun of Quran and hadith, Stop making fun of Promised Massiah. Indeed you wil be the one who got the displeasur of ALLAH. Fear Allah and stop your mockry attitude. This will get u NO where.
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Bring a single ayat from Quran stating a human can perform hundreds of thousands of miracles! Bring a single ayat about any messenger who boasted hundreds of thousands of miracles or challenged others who refused to believe the messenger by prediction of deaths!!! how many times Mirza told his opponents that they will die in some time frame or before him (though that rarely happened in actual)
Buddy, Jesus’ Birth can be explained by Science.
People have been woken from the dead, but the reason was that they werent really dead… Its a documented phenomenon… The Miracle is that someone was there to bring them out of this trance.
Moosas stick i will admit is tough to explain, but if lance burton can turn a woman into a tiger, then im sure Mussa could have turned a stick into a snake.
The spliting of the Moon may have been another optical illusion, caused by atmosphere… or somthing else. The Miracle is that it happened at a certain time for a certain reason.
And NO god is not limited by the laws of nature… You once again failed to understand, and jumped to conclusions.
GOD chooses not to defy his own laws… I believe he perfers to perform miracles that can be explained.
I dont think they are a rare species… In fact, I know a good number of people who do.. The rare species are those who after learning about the religion, remain blinded by disfigured Islamic doctrine.
And DONT try to act smart trying to assume anything about me… You sonr know who I am, and frankly, I dont care…
Im actually a former Sunni, now a devout atheist… You people discust me… I have no inclinations towards either , im atheist PURE AND SIMPLE. But I believe in social justice and respect, and you and your Sunni brothers have no respect for anyone. ![]()
devout atheist :D but u seem to belive in millions of miracles Mirza sahib claimed to have performed! How u explainnMIrza's claim that someoen will die the time he will specify?
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But I believe in social justice and respect, and you and your Sunni brothers have no respect for anyone. :)
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Why u need social justice if thesre is no one to answer at all.. Islam envisions a sociual justice systen so as other religions.. why should on ehave respect for anything in society at all.. why do we love parents, siblings , spouses or kids.. why not go out and plunder...
jo rasool ki nishaaniyon ko hee na maane us se kia behas karna....
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Why u need social justice if thesre is no one to answer at all.. Islam envisions a sociual justice systen so as other religions.. why should on ehave respect for anything in society at all.. why do we love parents, siblings , spouses or kids.. why not go out and plunder...
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You call this social justice? In Pakistan, only a "Muslim" can become PM.
In Pakistan, Ahmedis are punished for having muslim names, for giving Azan, for writing kalma, for greeting others with Salam... YOU CALL THIS SOCIAL JUSTICE?!?!?!?!?
And you respect other beliefs by insulting their faith? If you people followed Islam, I doubt you would act this way.. People like AR mughal and Rally sahib put Islam to shame. The Prophet for roll over in his grave.
You have a very twisted sense of Justice if you see nothing wrong in all this.
I dont really understand your logic, your saying that if there is no one to answer to, then we dont need social justice or respect? That means I can rob your house, paint profanity all over your walls, and it would be just fine since there is no one to answer to?
So if you have no one to anwer to, then that means you you can do anything you want? Come on!
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jo rasool ki nishaaniyon ko hee na maane us se kia behas karna....
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You are clever...
Now tell me, will that make a difference to anyone?
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devout atheist :D but u seem to belive in millions of miracles Mirza sahib claimed to have performed! How u explainnMIrza's claim that someoen will die the time he will specify?
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I dont believe in anything... I believe people should be repsected, everyone deserves respect. Its not for me to defend Ahmedi beliefs, you should talk to people like Ahmedji and others, but it is my obligation to speak up when I see people being unjustly picked on.
Ahmedis are victimized, and its a shame, and gives our country bad image. And you people show no shame, you portray Islam in a bad light. Its people like you that make me glad im atheist.
By the way, HOW DO YOU explain the following..
1. A man can spread the red sea with a stick?
2. A man travel physically to heaven?
3. A can a man survive a Crucifiction?
There are many such things that make no sense or seem very unlikely...
yet you believe them wholeheartedly... Yet when Ahmedis believe in such things, you question their sanity?