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I never said they should'nt interact with girls, what I was implying was that regardless of inhouse training, natural feelings and attraction over ride it, and are obstacles worth discussing and focusing on.
My son/daughter will have his own choice in choosing whoever he wills, but to train him to be able to conduct his choice in an islamic manner..well thats a thread on its own.
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^ Girls and boys can socialise with their parents overseeing, but when it comes to study statistics show that single sex classes have better results. Boys perform much better with only boys to compete with, they get distracted when girls are around.
To control nufs is something that mature people do after experience and training it is too much to expect children to learn, and control their urges while they are growing and getting hormone changes.
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Is sending them back to Pakistan an option? Send them to one of those elite English medium private schools with strict teachers, 100 pages of homework every night, over the top emphasis on math and science, and zero outdoor activities because exams are all that matter.
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Crescent, helping your child determine the "right" path doesn't necessarily come from protecting them from every negetive in society but by making them learn how to resist the temptations that come their way, choosing the right from the wrong. That foundation is set at home. By example. I have seen many protected children going wild when a little bit of freedom is given to them.
TeenDabbyWala, unfortunately, things back home aren't that rosy anymore. You'll be surprised to see kids there these days. And the overdiscipline does ultimately lead to a rebellious spirit!
Crescent, helping your child determine the "right" path doesn't necessarily come from protecting them from every negetive in society but by making them learn how to resist the temptations that come their way, choosing the right from the wrong. That foundation is set at home. By example. I have seen many protected children going wild when a little bit of freedom is given to them.
TeenDabbyWala, unfortunately, things back home aren't that rosy anymore. You'll be surprised to see kids there these days. And the overdiscipline does ultimately lead to a rebellious spirit!
Are you talking about India or Pakistan?
Ok then option number 2. Get a job in Dubai, move to Dubai, send kids of elite English medium school there.
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Before I started teaching where I am, I felt very strongly that I would not send my children to an Islamic school. I felt like isolating them in an entirely Muslim community would leave them unprepared for social and work interactions. I was afraid that they would not approach people with open minds and would be left with a warped sense of how others are.
I still have many of these same concerns. But I teach at a Jewish school now, and I also see how much the students benefit from going to school in an environment where their religious observance is so central, where holidays are marked and celebrated, and where they gain a great deal of religious and historical knowledge.
In the end I don't think I will send my children to an Islamic school fulltime. I definitely plan on sending them to weekend or evening Islamic classes. I also hope to raise them in a strong community of Muslim friends and family with whom they can share their religious experiences. But so far, Islamic schools (at least those in this area) do not have the academic strength and reputation that I want. And many of them do not approach religious philosophy from a pluralistic standpoint, and I find that problematic.
As for Homeschooling, I find that very troubling. I can understand why parents go for it -- wanting to shield children from social issues and wanting to have control over what they are exposed to academically, socially, and emotionally. However, I am opposed to the idea of homeschooling: That kind of critical judgement is best left out of your hands, and for someone more objective. Never take a red pen to your child's work. No matter how brilliant and gifted you are, and how great you think your relationship with your child is, support your kid, but let the professionals handle the assessment. I'm saying this having seen years of traumatized children who are affected by well-meaning, talented parents taking over the grading and editing of their children's work. Teaching may be a parents' job -- but the added role of assessment and criticism adds trouble.
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By the way, I went to public school from K-5, then private, all-girls school 6-12, then a co-ed college. I went to Islamic school on Sundays and taught there as well. Now I teach at a co-ed pluralistic Jewish school.
I think being in a girls school was great for me, and I really think single-sex education is important for impressionable girls, during adolescence in particular. I've got mixed feelings about boys prep schools (they can result in more sexist and chauvinist treatment of women). But I'd be willing to give them a try.
Once I was in college, I was not distracted at all by the boys in my class. I felt very comfortable in a co-ed environment. No shock at all. I was pleasantly surprised.
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Heres a very interesting article on education written by Queen Rania of Jordan…
I’m not sending my chotay bachay away from me when there are great schools around here. They need love and time with mom and dad as well.
I have seen wonderful desi muslim kids raised in the West with string Islamic values and a great upbringing where they can fit into all kinds of diverse situations. I don’t want to take any names but there are quite a few people on this forum like that as well!
Are you talking about India or Pakistan?
Ok then option number 2. Get a job in Dubai, move to Dubai, send kids of elite English medium school there.
Ahhhh, Dubai is more messed up than you can imagine! The sad truth is that the quality of education there is directly related to how high the school fees are, and how white the teachers are. And that in turn, effects how religious the schooling and the environment is. So really, anywhere you go in the world, there's plenty of opportunity for kids to be messed up.
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^ I agree SGC.
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I have been to private schools - and they have their negative points. The one that I went to was full of rich brats!
The plan is to send them to public school from 1-5 along with Sunday islamic school. Send them to Islamic school starting from middle school. I think that may help in adolescence ages.
They can go to a co-ed college just like I did. Eventually you have to interact with the opposite sex. So it's better not to avoid that. It's a part of growing up.
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Can someone send names and recomendations of good full time islamic schools in US? I am willing to relocate if necessary.
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A big problem I see with home schooling is if your kids goof up , then you have nobody to blame but yourself. If they were going to school you can conveniently shift the blame to the school and do not feel ashamed or embarrassed in front of others.
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the thing that i find i keep forgetting in all my planning is that my children will have personalities and opinions and thoughts on things too iA. and i have to keep reminding myself to make these plans with "if its in our best interest, then iA let it happen, but if something else is better, than so be it" in mind. cos what if my kids don't want to go to islamic school or they do but i don't want them to? i mean, at some point they're going to start vocalising their own wishes too and i hope at that point i still have my senses about me and can have a discussion with them on what is best for them, as opposed to outright telling them what to do-- which, in my experience, is a guaranteed way of causing issues.
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My mom attended private schools and was against putting her children in private school due to her experience. I attended public school and do not want my kids to go to public school due to my experience.
Sooooo, I am facing a similar dilemma. I'm thinking home-schooling, islamic school if its reputed, or a private school.
A big problem I see with home schooling is if your kids goof up , then you have nobody to blame but yourself. If they were going to school you can conveniently shift the blame to the school and do not feel ashamed or embarrassed in front of others.
This is not a problem with homeschooling, probably with those individuals who want to escape the resposibility.
This is not a problem with homeschooling, probably with those individuals who want to escape the resposibility.
My remarks are intended just for pun purposes. Any system is OK which is OK in the eyes of responsible parents. The parents who worry about which system they should use for their kids education are responsible enough to make sure that their kids turn out to be as they want them to be.
There are strong arguments from each side of the isle.
My remarks are intended just for pun purposes. Any system is OK which is OK in the eyes of responsible parents. The parents who worry about which system they should use for their kids education are responsible enough to make sure that their kids turn out to be as they want them to be. There are strong arguments from each side of the isle.
I dunno Mirch bhayee, too many families have been devastated for me to believe that "responsible children are from responsible parents". I think its more than that.
I dunno Mirch bhayee, too many families have been devastated for me to believe that "responsible children are from responsible parents". I think its more than that.
Yes it is more than that . But it all boils down to how much the parents care about their kids future , education , careers, well being etc etc.