Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
This is not a madrissa
This is a terrorist hub and it supplied international terrorists a safe heavon
This is Masjid e Zarar and more dangerous than Lal Masjid
Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
MQM was once a terrorist group from head to toe. After operations, elections, politicking, etc, a large chunk of MQM has been brought back into the mainstream life, away from terrorization, bhatta khori and target killing. So no reason why these impressionable madrassa kids cannot be dealt with similarly.
why do PTI fans need to support every step taken by IK and PTI?
trust me, if tomorrow IK announces to take the funding back, PTI fans will start supporting that decision as wel
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only a few madaras have that money most are in remote areas and they go door to door for bread. Specifically, only salfi madarasas get Saudi funding. Only a few madarasas like jamia ashrafia have money and teaching science subjects. But how can govt be wrong because all the officials are angels and bent on working hard to make pakistan super power.
We both are quoting guys here, between us two, i dont know if the guy was telling the whole truth or making it up. And iam not talking about salafi madrassa...
Anyway, apart from few big as you have rightly mentioned, most of them are producing radicalization...reason, the teacher himself is frog of the well and have got no idea of consequences...
Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
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Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
Even if I take the remote madarsa not getting funding, which I doubt if it has deobandi leanings as they get saudi funding, how does it relate to darul uloom haqqania? This is a heavy weight when it comes to madarsas, so funding to start a science curriculum is not an issue.
PS As for a certain member picking on khoji, I was about to start this topic but khoji beat me to it. As far as silaaj, his is the same third class nirala that PTI criticizes jiyalas for worshiping personalities.
I thought PTI was supposed to be "different" so why compare it to ANP? So tomorrow, if PTI starts a militant wing in karachi, they can say APMSO and PSF also existed in karachi. If imran uses police against "miscreants" in islamabad, we can also blame that desert bird didn't say anything when rana sana opened fire on tahir-ul-qadri's residence or that nawaz is "firm" aka dictatorial in not having a caretaker PM or FM when he went to surgery. Wah wah.
Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
Here is the fundamental problem: In any country that got effected by terrorism to a fraction of what Pak has suffered, there would be a ‘Zero tolerance’ to make sure it doesnt happen again. Take an example of what Bangladesh is doing. But here all we see here is just a soft corner for these extremists and the result is in front of us. You can keep funding them as much as you want but then just remember you are just throwing fuel in the fire and its just a matter of time when entire country becomes a ash (God forbid).
Now western countries who are also deeply effected by the animals funded and nurtured in our countries and neighbors, imagine the impact of these kinda news reaching there.
There is still time. Pakistan is bleeding. Stop this process of self-destruction. Or else every person will be a Amjad Sabri soon including those who are feeding the snake.
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If they really want to give funding for right minded madrasah . They need to know simply Wat is the opinion of these madrasah runner about mumtaaz Qadri. A shaheed or a killer. This will tell Wat product they are producing.
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If there is one reason to abandon Imran khan, here it is. *this man seems to be living on an entirely different planet. A planet 300 million rupees away.
*The whole country is being burnt by jihadists and here he is, giving them a gift of 300million rupees and then justifying it stupidly.
if you keep on doing it, people will call You Taliban Khan and yes, you are on the wrong side of the history khan. You cant tame it, just accept it, so stop feeding the snake, or else you will be an Amjad Sabri soon..........
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this news heading says it all…Imran khan will modernize this jannoniee jihadist madrassa by giving them the tax payer money!
yea right…they will be laughing at you naive khan!
Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
haqqania madrass is center of terrorism and is known as center of jihadism. its main sponsor is taliban’s idelogical father molana samee ul haq.
mullah ummar, mullah mansoor, and all top leader leadership of TTP and afghan taliban studied here. this madrassh declares pak army napak army and taliban shaheed. i dont know where to stop…
and Khan sahib will given this private madrassh tax payer’s 300MM rs by cutting minorities’ budget.
Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
It's no longer madras. Didn't you get the memo its chennai!
Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
why do PTI fans need to support every step taken by IK and PTI?
trust me, if tomorrow IK announces to take the funding back, PTI fans will start supporting that decision as wel
That is not the case.... your imagination, perhaps.
Imran and PTIs stance from day 1 has been to negotiate with the taliban, and help them assimilate back into mainstream society. After all, most of them are Pakistanis, despite what we all like to believe. You can disgree with that stance, but you certainly cannot claim that the opposing stance has succeeded in anyway. Despite the highly heralded zarbe azb, we are still facing regular terrorism. Despite a major cleanup in Karachi, we still have target killing.
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That is not the case.... your imagination, perhaps.
Imran and PTIs stance from day 1 has been to negotiate with the taliban, and help them assimilate back into mainstream society. After all, most of them are Pakistanis, despite what we all like to believe. You can disgree with that stance, but you certainly cannot claim that the opposing stance has succeeded in anyway. Despite the highly heralded zarbe azb, we are still facing regular terrorism. Despite a major cleanup in Karachi, we still have target killing.
So it is right to call him Taliban Khan
Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
After all, most of them are Pakistanis, despite what we all like to believe. You can disgree with that stance, but you certainly cannot claim that the opposing stance has succeeded in anyway. Despite the highly heralded zarbe azb, we are still facing regular terrorism. Despite a major cleanup in Karachi, we still have target killing.
People who are getting killed due to beasts sitting in that madressah are Pakistanis too. Lest you forget.
This Imran bot thinks that we are facing terrorism despite Zarbe Azb and operation cleanup in Karachi. What he can't understand is that it is due to lack of action against the snakes sitting in places like Lal Masjid and Darul Khawarij Haqqania.
This khariji terrorism can not be successful unless all these khariji terror factories are closed down for good. Otherwise every operation Zarbe Azb, every operation cleanup, will fail. Unless the root cause of this Evil is destroyed, it will continue to show its ugly face.
What is needed is to stop all kind of finances from these universities of Jihad so that future terrorists may be stopped from being nurtured. And yet that khariji-lover PTI is feeding those same enemies of Pakistan and Islam, by giving them huge sum of money. Totally opposite of what is needed to save the lives of thousands of innocent people who will die due to that mad party leading KP.
That idiot thinks that nurturing them and feeding them will make them join the mainstream. Exactly how it will happen, is obviously beyond the comprehension of that idiot. Why would they change their course? WHEN did they agree to change their course, if given money? Can you make a serial killer / rapist change his ways by bribing him?
I think it is time for the Army (who else?) to immediately stop that PTI mad-man before he succeeds in his crazy plan.
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It's no longer madras. Didn't you get the memo its chennai!
You used to fear for the match because Imran was around. Now I fear for my life because that Imran is around.
He also has multiplied himself into hundreds of thousands of bots throughout the country.
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What he can't understand is that it is due to lack of action against the snakes sitting in places like Lal Masjid and Darul Khawarij Haqqania.
This khariji terrorism can not be successful unless all these khariji terror factories are closed down for good.
Ignoring the personal attack, our mainstream colleges and universities also produce terrorists in the guise of student unions. When someone talks of banning them, all hell breaks loose, as if bearing arms in universities, creating terror, and scaring teachers and students is fair game.
Of course terrorists and their handlers should be arrested and put behind bars, or better yet, sent to hell. But frankly, what makes you blame KPK govt for funding the madrassah of a head who has publicly denounced terrorism, but doesnt cause you to condemn subsequent govts for letting Maulvi Abdul Aziz of lal masjid roam free, and even make hate speeches? or the fact that a terrorist like Altaf Hussain has commandeered an army of terrorists from London for so long, and no govt has had the guts to ban them? Problem is our misdirected priorities.
Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
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Re: PTI gives Rs 300m to Taliban madressah Darul Uloom Haqqania
That is not the case.... your imagination, perhaps.
**Imran and PTIs stance from day 1 has been to negotiate with the taliban, and help them assimilate back into mainstream society. After all, most of them are Pakistanis, **despite what we all like to believe. You can disgree with that stance, but you certainly cannot claim that the opposing stance has succeeded in anyway. Despite the highly heralded zarbe azb, we are still facing regular terrorism. Despite a major cleanup in Karachi, we still have target killing.
dear silaj, there is time and moment for everything. as a nation, we are way beyond mediating, negotiating and accommodating with these terrorists. Timae and again, they have proved that they used negotiations to buy time, hide themselves to new locations and strengthen their bargaining positions.
They are not Pakistanis, they are snakes and animals who have killed, can kill and will kill even masoom childern. WE AS A NATION, need zero tolerance towards them and their supporter madrasses instead of giving them 300MM. We all should hate them and should support eliminating them by force because that is the only lingo they understand. when we were negotiating with them for over 10 months per Imran's wishes, there were attacks every other week and then the tragic Peshawar school incidence happened.
face it, Imran Khan (and ch nisar from PMLN) are on the wrong side of the history and cannot simply cant get rid of their soft support for taliban for some weird reason.
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Guys, great discussion so far. lets keep it civilized, no need to personally attack any poster or leader just because he differs from our vision. Both sides, present your case with logic. thx
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dear silaj, there is time and moment for everything. as a nation, we are way beyond mediating, negotiating and accommodating with these terrorists. Timae and again, they have proved that they used negotiations to buy time, hide themselves to new locations and strengthen their bargaining positions.
They are not Pakistanis, they are snakes and animals who have killed, can kill and will kill even masoom childern. WE AS A NATION, need zero tolerance towards them and their supporter madrasses instead of giving them 300MM.
For one, lets not kid ourselves by saying that we are beyond negotiations. We have never had sensible, meaningful negotiations to begin with. Both sides have been disinterested.
Secondly, sadly, they are Pakistanis, like it or not. We created the monsters, and we need to help them find a way out as well. We cannot just create monsters one day, tell them to become terrorists, and then the next day ask them to assimilate back into normal life. Re-assimilation has to be orderly. And providing kids with necessary funds with proper guidelines for a proper education is part of that re-assimilation process.