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^that don’t matter… she said something against that on which there was consensus of the ulema in the other thread… 
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People who are thinking punjabi kuri is a troll or making things up are wrong because I know her from chat way before this thread.
She doesn't seem like a troll. I think the inconsistencies are due to her own questioning and confusion. She's young and dealing with difficult issues. Who can blame her?
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who can blame her???
The life1 'wise' people
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^ I think the reaction was due to the way she used her own experience to justify what happened in the other thread. And then we find out that key relevant details that make the two cases very different were initially left out.
I will never believe that the ends justifies the means. The fact that that other girl may one day end up a good Muslim girl does not justify to me cruel and sinful behavior of those around her. This approach is used to often by people who say they are oppressing people for their own good. It is wrong, plain and simple.
The case here is different.
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^ *I think the reaction was due to the way she used her own experience to justify what happened in the other thread. And then we find out that key relevant details that make the two cases very different were initially left out. * I will never believe that the ends justifies the means. The fact that that other girl may one day end up a good Muslim girl does not justify to me cruel and sinful behavior of those around her. This approach is used to often by people who say they are oppressing people for their own good. It is wrong, plain and simple.
The case here is different.
well said....the two cases turned out to be entirely different. and pk herself sounds cofused. as the thread developed, more and more details emerged which showed that she herself does not know the real truth.
May Allah SWT help her find peace and live a happy life.
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Yep, You got me, I was trolling as PK. to make some guppans go banana! 
Add: In both cases it is an assumption that men left without the consent of their ex-wives. No evidence in this regard presented.
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so you are impressed finally… with my intelligence 
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Absolutely! 
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So you agree people are being judgmental. The only difference is that you don't find it inappropriate. Thanks for agreeing with me.
We are indeed in agreement if wedont find it inappropriate.
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yeah.. right.. i am confused about all this..
i dont know the whole truth.. and all that i know is heared from different people.. there is not a single person who told me the whole truth... :(
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PK, just remember that it is unlikely that the true story has any villains or any saints. Whatever your parents did roughly 20 years ago, they did to find some sort of happiness/peace, and that may have involved behavior that is considered immoral. I think it's safe to say that no one behaved perfectly. You will probably need to forgive both of them as you discover more information. Part of growing up is seeing and accepting the flaws in our parents. And focusing attention on building relationships for a happy future, rather than looking to blame others in your past.
It won't be easy. I wish you the best.
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i understand.. but i want to know the whole truth... what happened 19 years ago... that my dad had to make this decision...
and i want to see my mother once in my life...
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sweetie, we all have questions that may never be answered, that is an unfortunate part of life…as a married, mother of 3, i STILL have many, many questions about why my parents divorced and other things that happened between them (even though our situations are very, very different, i still get where you’re coming from!)…my parents are no longer here, they both passed away in 2008, and I am slowly learning to stop dwelling in the past, and live for the future…believe me, I know it’s easier said than done, but it is possible.
someone on this thread gave you some advice about contacting the German embassy and trying to contact your mother…there may be something there. perhaps you’ll find the closure you’re looking for?
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i dont really think about my past.. i always thought whatever happened was good for us... best part is we are living ass a muslim.. and gna die as a muslim as well inshAllah...
but after reading all the posts.. i got confused...
khair my brother is out.. as soon as he come back.. i'll talk to him.. lets see what he says...
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you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders, don't let this thread confuse you..
if you are satisfied with your life and have made peace with living apart from you mother, than don't second guess yourself.
if you decide later in life that you would like to track her down, then good luck, and stay strong!
(would just like to add that alhamdullilah, you can still be a good muslim and have contact with your mother if you so choose! knowing her will NOT affect your din, or lead you astray, unless you let it!)
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On a positive note, your father has raised you to be a very gentle, polite and sweet person. You are showing maturity way beyond your tender 19 years in terms of how you have responded to the posts. Clearly you and your brother have gone through a lot, but have come out OK, based on your calm and polite demeanor. Stay cool!