There is so much text on the discovery of Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) mentioned in other religious Holy Scriptures one way or the other, like the Vedas of Hinduism.
But to my knowledge, Allah Almighty only mentions 4 books, ‘Qur’an, Injil (Gospel), Torah and Zabur’.
So what are these other Holy Scriptures and where did they come from? Did Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) mention any other Holy Scriptures apart from the 4 mentioned above?
Vedas of hinduism was written by men and therefore are not the words of Allah(swt). To the people of the book, the holy scriptures refers to Tauraat, Zaboor, Injeel and Quraan and anything revealed by Allah(SWT) to his 124,000 prophets.
All the Holy Books were written by men. They may have been inspired or instructed by God, but were translated and written by men. How do we know that the Vedas was not revealed by one of God's prophets, because the Quran only mentions a handful of the 124,000?
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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
All the Holy Books were written by men. They may have been inspired or instructed by God, but were translated and written by men.
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This is such a philosophical discussion... almost to the point of being inane. Anyway, how and why did you assume that the "instruction" by God is in a foreign language that can not be understood or recorded, unless it is "translated"?
Because the recordings (outside of perhaps the 10 Commandments) were not written in stone by God, but told to men who either wrote down as much as they could, told to others to write down or even compiled by others after the death of the one to whom the original message was delivered. Perhaps 'translated' was not the proper term, let's say inspired by God, but "interpreted" by man.
I am not disputing the "writing" part either. My understanding is that God always gave His message to His messanger in the language he (the messanger) spoke, and that was understood by his people. The message was memorized/recorded in its original form (with no translation). Any additional interpretations or translations are definitely by humans, but that does not impact the ORIGINAL message in its ORIGINAL language.
Any scripture I know of were written by men, perhaps delivered by God or His messengers, but written down by men. They did not have recording devices back and it is not logical to think all the words were written down in perfect and complete form. Especially if the messenger couldn't write, the complete text was compiled after the messenger had a chance to proof read it (assuming he had perfect recally memory) or the collectors of the bits and pieces of the message got it just perfect. As we know, prophets and those that transcribed their words were men, and therefore not perfect. The original language spoken to a messenger does not matter, it doesn't mean it was transcribed in its entirety or 100% the word of God.
But the larger point is if there were 124,000 prophets throughout history and the Holy Books only mention a few, we don't know what other messsages (like the Vedas) were delivered to others.
Most other messangers just re-iterated the message of previous messangers. Not all brought with them books of new guidance.
And coming back to your point about men writing down stuff (which is true) and no guarantees of 100% accuracy (thats your belief), for most (if not all) muslims, the Holy Quran is still 100% accurate and exact as to the message delivered to Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) word by word. No deviation. Now you can take your theories and apply them to whichever book you want, and thats fine. Its your belief and you are entitled to that.
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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
does god randomly selected muhamed as prophet? why not chinese,
pakistani,indian or icelander?
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Verily We have sent thee (Muhammad) in truth as a bearer of glad tidings and as a warner: And there never was a people without a warner having lived among them (in the past). Qur'an 35:24
124,000 Prophets and Messengers have been sent to all the civilisations of the world, we're the descendants of the last few.
Verily We have sent thee (Muhammad) in truth as a bearer of glad tidings and as a warner: And there never was a people without a warner having lived among them (in the past). Qur'an 35:24
124,000 Prophets and Messengers have been sent to all the civilisations of the world, we're the descendants of the last few.
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how come god let huamns kill each other over religen? he could have prevented in creating one less reason to kill each other.
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*Originally posted by Green & White: *
There is so much text on the discovery of Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) mentioned in other religious Holy Scriptures one way or the other, like the Vedas of Hinduism.
But to my knowledge, Allah Almighty only mentions 4 books, 'Qur'an, Injil (Gospel), Torah and Zabur'.
So what are these other Holy Scriptures and where did they come from? Did Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) mention any other Holy Scriptures apart from the 4 mentioned above?
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other scripts means the sahifas of some of the prophets....
Why did God create you and not a dog or rat or a fly? They would have taken up less space. Used up less resources. Die faster too. Guess you’ll have to ask him when you see Him.
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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
how come god let huamns kill each other over religen? he could have prevented in creating one less reason to kill each other.
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That question has puzzled me for a long time. If he is the same God, why has he allowed his followerers to spend centuries hating and killing each other?
