Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) in other Scriptures

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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
how come god let huamns kill each other over religen? he could have prevented in creating one less reason to kill each other.
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The following is from the famous book 'Stories of the Prophets' by 'Ibn Kathir (700-774 A.H.)', page 21, second and third paragraphs:

It is said by Qatada that the Angels knew that this was going to be the case, from what they had observed of other creatures who lived on the earth before Adam, like the Jinn.

Abdullah Bin 'Umar (Radhi Allahu Anhu) said: Jinn lived about two thousand years before Adam on earth, and they shed blood. Allah sent an army of Angels who expelled them to remote Islands.

The following is also from the same book, but page 25 and it's the fifth paragraph:

Al-Hasan Al-Basri said: Iblis (Satan) has never been from the Angels at any time. And Shahr bin Haushab said: He was one of the Jinn. When they made mischief on the earth, Allah sent to them an army of Angels who killed them and made them flee to remote islands. Iblis was one of those captured and taken to the heavens, and he stayed there. When the Angels were commanded to prostrate before Adam, Iblis refrained from doing so.

The point is, God tells man to worship Him (the meaning of life), if he don't and transgresses, then God says:

"Verily, We created them and strengthened all of them. And when We willed, We replaced them comletely by people who were of the same kind." Surah 76: Verse 28

"If God wills, He destroys you and in your place appoints whom He wills as successors, just as He brought you forth from the descendants of other peoples." Surah 6: Verse 133

So if we do wrong then it's our own fault, because we're doing it against our own Soul (Our souls have already said to God "We bear witness that you are our Lord").

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may be prophet muhamed was selected since that region needed
reform badly ?

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Some of the scholars believe that Hinduism came from followers of Hazrat Ibrahim, who had sahifay. And Hazrat Ibrahim was the one that prayed that Mohammad (pbuh) be born in his family. There are some pretty interesting articles about that online. That is why some scholars say that Brahama is actual Abraham(or Ibrahim) and his wife Saraswati is actually Sara (the wife of prophet Ibrahim).
Allah knows the best.

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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
^Might as well ask why God created us in the first place!
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Aren't these questions important? If there isn't an answer in your scripture to a question, does that make it stupid?

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
Aren't these questions important? If there isn't an answer in your scripture to a question, does that make it stupid?
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There are all kinds of answers in 'my scripture'. I can spend my life trying to get my point across, there are some people out there who are not capable of understanding.

Like I said, if you want to ask why God lets humans fight among themselves, why not go to the root question- what the heck are we doing here anyway?

skhan--As much as I enjoy the religion forum, unfrotunately it has its down side.sigh.

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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
Like I said, if you want to ask why God lets humans fight among themselves, why not go to the root question- what the heck are we doing here anyway?
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I think that's a great question as well. But surely he didn't put us here to fight for competing interpretations of his message. It is legitimate to question why God provided separate messages to his people when in his All Knowing ways he knew they would spend centuries killing each other based on the books he provided. I don't think it is a stupid debate, the answers could save mankind.

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
I think that's a great question as well. But surely he didn't put us here to fight for competing interpretations of his message. It is legitimate to question why God provided separate messages to his people when in his All Knowing ways he knew they would spend centuries killing each other based on the books he provided. Whether or not it is answerable based on scripture does not make it a stupid question.
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Allah sent down one true religion for mankind to follow.He gave us intelligence to use- sometimes ,some of us dont use that God given tool.As much as we like to find excuses for our faults, the truth is we have to come to terms with our own.

Allah did not tell us to fight, we do that on our own.He is always there watching, He's testing us- who knows which one of us will pass this test of faith- and how many of us will fail to do so.Allah is all knowing.He did not tell men to fight amongst themselves, he has sent down the Quran for us.Its our fault if we cant follow it.

I didnt say if it was a stupid debate.Why would a person question faith, if he cannot even follow any of the aspects of the religion?

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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *

Allah sent down one true religion for mankind to follow.He gave us intelligence to use- sometimes ,some of us dont use that God given tool.As much as we like to find excuses for our faults, the truth is we have to come to terms with our own.

Allah did not tell us to fight, we do that on our own.He is always there watching, He's testing us- who knows which one of us will pass this test of faith- and how many of us will fail to do so.Allah is all knowing.He did not tell men to fight amongst themselves, he has sent down the Quran for us.Its our fault if we cant follow it.

I didnt say if it was a stupid debate.Why would a person question faith, if he cannot even follow any of the aspects of the religion?
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quran says fight the unbelievers that applies to specfic
situation in 7th century?

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Look buddy you dont know what you’re talking about.You cant twist Quranic ayas to suit yourself.Instead of me making a mess of the explanation - try going to your local mosque or ask somebody who is more familiar with the interpretation of the Quran..:flower1:

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Where the heck are the mods???
This thread has clearly gone off topic right from the beginning and the mods have done nothing to put it back on track.

So anywayz, i have heard that it is mentioned in the book baranabus (not really sure but i think he was one of huzrat essas followers) which was in the bible before but was removed in the new king james version. I have also heard that the original version of that book is currently in a museum in germany and it clearly mentions prophet muhammed (pbuh).

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*Originally posted by I'm Kool: *So anywayz, i have heard that it is mentioned in the book baranabus (not really sure but i think he was one of huzrat essas followers) which was in the bible before but was removed in the new king james version.
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The so-called book of Barnabus was never in the Bible and apparently wasn't even written when the final compilation was made.

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The Qur’an mentions that ‘Injil’ was given to Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) which means ‘Gospel’ not the Bible as most people think. The Bible has 4 Gospels in it and plus other letters such as Acts of the Apostles and St. Pauls letters.

Barnabas was one of Prophet Jesus’s (peace be upon him) closest desciples. He was from the true Christians who had a grudge with Saint Paul. St. Paul was Roman citizen who spoke Greek and he wanted to get rid of the Law that Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) taught, as a result, conflict ensued and the St. Paul’s brand of Christianity won.

In 325 AD at the Council of Nicea, 270 Gospels were presented, out of which 4 were ‘miraculously’ chosen by God and these 4 belonged to St. Paul’s followers.

In 478 AD, Barnabas’s remains were found, he had ‘The Gospel of Barnabas’ with him, but the Vatican claimed it was Mark’s instead, but they’ve never made that Gospel public for the last 15 centuries to prove it.

I have the Gospel of Barnabas and I bought it from Simply Islam.
It has one third similar to Islam, one third similar to what Christianity preaches and one third is completely new.

Through out the Gospel of Barnabas, Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is mentioned that’s why the Church refuses to recognise it.

Only 2 copies of this exist in the world after the rest disapeared when it was first published in 1907 by the Oxford University Press. One copy can be found at the British Museum and the other at the Library of the Congress in the Washington. A copy of this was obtained and printed again in English in Pakistan in the 1970s,then a revised addition of this was printed for the mass public and ever since then the Church has been unable to get rid of them.

Here’s the full version of it… The Gospel of Barnabas