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I suppose Rayan will end up as 'Ryan' and Essam as 'Assam the tea' ...LOL....but seriously I believe it is a no win situation and like the rest of us you should just choose the name that YOU like the most and all the mis-pronouncers can go to a place which rhymes with the letter "L" .....
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well its difficult to suggest a simpler name cause,who knows they spell it wrong anyway...
obaid,haider,hamza,
maryam,parishay,humna i think theyr easy:)
above all problem mentioned ,u should name ur baby as u want,but a nice meaning in mind,becoz names do affect on childs personality.....choose a nick name instead for those who might misspell..
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^ i think by and large names have zero effect on a child's personality unless its an obviously terrible name like Adolf Hitler or Jellybean Lemon Pie.
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actually SGC, i disagree. Names do affect personality. My name is Afshan, and I've been called everything from Afghan to AfshAn to even FatshAn (yes, i was a chubby girl). It honestly made me hate my name (not because people were pronoucing in wrong, but were making fun of it) and i was very insecure and shy when I was little. Especially since my older sister had a really nice girly name (Rubina) which was easy for everyone to pronounce. And she was a bubbly talkative girl.
Same thing with my twin bros, Kamran and Rizwan. Kami's name was easy to pronouce and Riz's was alright and got a few laughs. And kami is waay more outgoing than Riz.
But now, I've come to terms with my name and do correct people when they misprouounce it, and people know better now not to make fun of my name ;)
but anyways, i totally agree with Muzna, Reha and TLK. If we take the effort to pronounce other people's ethnic names, we shoudl expect them to do the same for ours.
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^ i think by and large names have zero effect on a child's personality unless its an obviously terrible name like Adolf Hitler or Jellybean Lemon Pie.
sorry sis i disagree wid u here,names are very important cause they do effect a child's personality....
here are some a hadiths,
According to a Hadith a child must be named promptly on birth. The baby name should be meaningful. 'You will be called by your name on the day of judgment' this is another reason why it is important to chose a baby name with good meaning. The prophet (pbuh) was very particular about it. The Prophet has suggested names of the Prophets or Abdullah and Abdur Rahman. He has said,
"Keep the names of the noble Prophets, Allah loves most the names Abdullah and Abdur Rahman. The most truthful names are Harith and Humam, while the most disliked are Harb and Murrah (war and bitter)."
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names are very important cause they do effect a child's personality....
says who??
personality has a lot more to do with environment in which one grows up and lives rather than the name..
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says who??
personality has a lot more to do with environment in which one grows up and lives rather than the name..
a quote from hadith,now choice is urs,to disagree,
According to a Hadith a child must be named promptly on birth. The baby name should be meaningful. 'You will be called by your name on the day of judgment' this is another reason why it is important to chose a baby name with good meaning. The prophet (pbuh) was very particular about it. The Prophet has suggested names of the Prophets or Abdullah and Abdur Rahman. He has said,
"Keep the names of the noble Prophets, Allah loves most the names Abdullah and Abdur Rahman. The most truthful names are Harith and Humam, while the most disliked are Harb and Murrah (war and bitter)."
Psychologists now apprehend the wisdom of the effect a person’s name has on his life. But Muhammad (Sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) had revealed this fact to his followers already 1400 years ago. His teaching to his followers was that children should be given good names, and that meaningless names and those having unsavory connotations should be avoided. Subsequently, we find many incidents mentioned in the Hadith where Rasoolullah (Sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) changed the names of people with this object.
Another aspect of a person’s name is that it bespeaks a person’s religion. Hence the name of a Muslim is usually of such a nature that by the mere mention of it, the listener understands that the person so addressed, is a Muslim. It is for this reason that our elders laid great emphasis on keeping good and pleasant names.
But since the widespread of Western culture throughout the world, it has become customary amongst Muslims not to take into congnisance the meaning of the name when naming a child. Many do not even bother to ascertain whether it is permissible for one to keep such a name or not. Often, even if the name is correct and suitable, then by way of abbreviating it, its Islamic connotation is distorted. In fact, at times it even becomes unlawful to address one Rahmaan; Abdur-Razzaaq, Razzaqq and Wahhaab are the exclusive epithets of Allah Ta’ala. To address any creation, by such a name, is there unlawful.
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All that says is...we should have good names for our kids..which have good meanings and islamically correct...but does keeping a certain name 'cause' any change in a person's personality?
if for example a person had one name...and then changed it after some years...will it cause any difference in his personality?
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All that says is...we should have good names for our kids..which have good meanings and islamically correct...but does keeping a certain name 'cause' any change in a person's personality?
if for example a person had one name...and then changed it after some years...will it cause any difference in his personality?
well i think its quite clear from the above para i wrote
that name has the importance,and effect on a personality...
i don know wht will happen to a person who changes his/her name afterwards for some reasons!!!
ALLAH dislikes names like HARB n MURAH..don't u think there a reason behind it,cause if there'e zero effect then ALLAH would not have disliked these names.....
and i agree that enviroment,and the upbringing effects the childs personilty also.....
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i think that all names are pronounceable, some just require a little explanation as to how to say them. So name your kid whatever you want, dont discard a name you like just cos you think it'll be mispronounced. people dont pronounce my hubby's name properly at first, but when explained to them how to say it, they have no problem.just requires a little effort on your part and their part,thats it.
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All that says is...we should have good names for our kids..which have good meanings and islamically correct...but does keeping a certain name 'cause' any change in a person's personality?
if for example a person had one name...and then changed it after some years...will it cause any difference in his personality?
exactly. one good name isn't going to make you happier/smarter/more successful than another good name. and of course you want to give a good name to your child so the good vs. bad name argument isn't applicable.
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exactly. one good name isn't going to make you happier/smarter/more successful than another good name. and of course you want to give good name to your child so the good vs. bad name argument isn't applicable.
who's saying that ONLY agood name can make a good personality,..please don put ur meanings,thoughts in wht others are trying to say...ur arguing is baseless,jus read this....IMPORTANCE OF NAMING A MUSLIM CHILD FROM MUSLIM POINT OF VEIW,THANKS..
According to a Hadith a child must be named promptly on birth. The baby name should be meaningful. 'You will be called by your name on the day of judgment' this is another reason why it is important to chose a baby name with good meaning. The prophet (pbuh) was very particular about it. The Prophet has suggested names of the Prophets or Abdullah and Abdur Rahman. He has said,
"Keep the names of the noble Prophets, Allah loves most the names Abdullah and Abdur Rahman. The most truthful names are Harith and Humam, while the most disliked are Harb and Murrah (war and bitter)."
Psychologists now apprehend the wisdom of the effect a person’s name has on his life. But Muhammad (Sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) had revealed this fact to his followers already 1400 years ago. His teaching to his followers was that children should be given good names, and that meaningless names and those having unsavory connotations should be avoided. Subsequently, we find many incidents mentioned in the Hadith where Rasoolullah (Sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) changed the names of people with this object.
Another aspect of a person’s name is that it bespeaks a person’s religion. Hence the name of a Muslim is usually of such a nature that by the mere mention of it, the listener understands that the person so addressed, is a Muslim. It is for this reason that our elders laid great emphasis on keeping good and pleasant names.
But since the widespread of Western culture throughout the world, it has become customary amongst Muslims not to take into congnisance the meaning of the name when naming a child. Many do not even bother to ascertain whether it is permissible for one to keep such a name or not. Often, even if the name is correct and suitable, then by way of abbreviating it, its Islamic connotation is distorted. In fact, at times it even becomes unlawful to address one Rahmaan; Abdur-Razzaaq, Razzaqq and Wahhaab are the exclusive epithets of Allah Ta’ala. To address any creation, by such a name, is there unlawful.
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I hope Starry Eyes can sift through all this discussion and find that elusive easy and pronouncible good muslim name......
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^ i think by and large names have zero effect on a child's personality unless its an obviously terrible name like Adolf Hitler or Jellybean Lemon Pie.
I will respectfully disagree on this as well.
I firmly believe that things like date of birth, time of birth, name etc. all have an impact on personality and sometimes even on health.
I'm sure at least one or two other members here will be able to recount the story of someone they know that changed their child's name because he/she was always sickly and once the name was changed the illness ceased to manifest, etc. etc.
While I don't investigate or follow things like astrology, numerology et al, it would be foolish to deny their existence and impact on a person's life. It is believed to be just so with the name. There are countless hadiths that describe our beloved prophet's advice on naming your offspring.......and many examples of where he changed a person's name giving reason that it is not one with a good meaning. I only education myself on this matter when I was choosing my daughter's name.
I believe that children are bestowed into our care by Allah. They do not belong to us; we are simply appointed guardians, if you will. In this vein it becomes a much greater responsibility to do what has been prescribed by our prophet rather than what we may think is best for them. Just my two cents on the matter.
Mooooooosna
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All that says is...we should have good names for our kids..which have good meanings and islamically correct...but does keeping a certain name 'cause' any change in a person's personality?
if for example a person had one name...and then changed it after some years...will it cause any difference in his personality?
perhaps it will and perhaps it will not....depending on how strong their personality is to begin with......are they easily influenced or steadfast in their opinions?
when someone uses "impact on personality" as an argument they are most likely referring to the formative years from birth to age 5 or 6.
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Actually one thing I've noticed is that even some Pakistanis cant pronounce thier names properly as most of the names are in arabic. i know someone who named their daughter khadijah Khhhhha di jah, but they pronounce it kedeja transforming it into an urdu word?! So i think they should work on that first lol.
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I used to hate it wen ppl didnt say my name correctly:(
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so true sajania786. i remember learning that Samina actually means fat and Thamina means precious. I think it has to with people prounoucing the Tha (3 dots) as a Saa.
and i honestly don't know if my cousin's kid is Saira or Sara...everyone from her dadi to my mom prounounces it differently, even though its two different names.
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We're trying to choose baby names and have come across the issue of pronounciation. Naming your child in the west is difficult because you want to have a name that will be easy to pronounce...otherwise the name will be butchered and the child will be made fun of.
Can you please suggest some unique baby names that are also easy to pronounce.
If its a boy we are thinking Shayaan, would this name be easily pronounced?
I've noticed that when you make the effort to correct people and spell out your name, they do end up pronouncing it right.
Our criteria for naming our daughters was keep it simple and let it have a good meaning. By keeping it simple, I mean, nothing fancy or so unique that it sounds like the name of a PTV drama series. :D
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Starry Eyes, have you short listed names for the baby yet or not and did we all make the choice any easier for you. I am sure we would all love to advise you on the spellings of the name next, LOL...