A patnership between the 3 major faiths is not really possible, despite the common ground there is massive difference-to the extent where unity and reconciliation is not possible. The best we can hope for is a acceptance of the other, and hope a respct emerged between the 3-althopugh an out and out peace is impossible. All faiths say "we are right"-and reject the validity of other faiths.
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Dear People,
Isn't that the ultimate idea? Of Moses, Jesus and Mohammad?
The catholic idea of reconciliation is forgiveness. And confession. Once you have confessed your sins..you are pure.
And it lifts a heavy burden on your heart.
Reconciliation is a time to shake hands. Love each other.
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I think Live and Let Live should be the idea to promote among the people of any religion.
As far as confession and forgiveness is concerned, I think confession should be made directly to the God and we shouldn't be the judge of our confession whether God has forgiven us or not. I just give an example say if someone kills another person and confess and believes that he is forgiven then I think this person is acting like God and forgiving himself which can cause a lot of chaos in this world. It should rather be the God who should decide after taking into consideration the will of the victim what should be the punishment of the killer and if he decides to forgive then it's fair in my opinion.
I clearly support a peace between the 3 faiths, I'm just a realist-get your head out of the clouds missy, the world is not as rosy as you seem to think!
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BeSides..
I could never ever kill another. To me its just abhorent. UGLY.. such Ugliness I can't abide.
Anyone who can kill another living thing is damned..
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I don't know how u deduced from my comment that "some are right or some are wrong" and i m the judge of it. There will always be people who are right or wrong but they can ONLY BE forgiven if the God decides it.
On the other hand, i don't how u r sayin people who kill others are "damned" because using your own definition of non-discrimination God shouldn't discriminate between the killers and non-killers.
I didn't mean that you are the judge of it. Of course God is the only judge. And that I think all of us can agree on?
Live and let live. That definately is a better way of putting things.
Of course the catholic belief about confessions is basically that when you confess to a priest he is authorized to assign a pennance and absolve sins.
This can be argued, there are good priests and bad priests. However, its kind of like unburdening yourself to someone when something is really bothering you. It makes you feel better to tell someone, and in that context its a good thing.
What I was thinking about killing was someone that intentionally murders for the thrill of it, doesn't have any remorse. That person in my opinion is damned. Though its not for me to damn them. Its up to God.
Mo_Best and all,
I re-read what I wrote and I don't really like the way I wrote what I wrote. I guess I wasn't really thinking clearly. Perhaps I was stating things way I wished things were, rather that how they really are, so I'll have to agree that sometimes things I say do kinda make me sound as if I have my head in my the clouds. I'll have to watch that :)
According to Islamic belief there is no one between you and your God. You can directly ask for forgiveness from the God and he will forgive you. One doesn't need to go to the Imam (meaning leader - he is not like a priest) to ask for forgiveness. Basically, Islam has cut the middle man.
I think friends and family should be enough to make you feel better and they should be the ones who one should confide in. Also, if u don't think family and friends are enough then the God himself would be an ideal person to tell something to that you can't tell anyone else.
what kind of reconcilation are you looking for. Islam is more than a religion it is a complete system.
I see these interfaith and abrahmic faith organisatins as reducing islam as a system to just a faith with few rules about washing etc.
While the West is bombing the crap out of muslims around the world how can you talk about reconcilation actions speak louder than words your leader bush is xstian is he not along with lot of his friends
She was trying to be nice and help foster an atmosphhere of brotherly love between the worlds faiths. Should be commended for that. Although yes at this time it is very hard to see a universal peace anytime soon.
Ok fair enough averageamerican girl your intentions maybe good but in reality i think the larger organisations who promote Interfaith and abrahamic faith dialougue are insincere and have other motives such as containing political islam
According to Islamic belief there is no one between you and your God. You can directly ask for forgiveness from the God and he will forgive you. One doesn't need to go to the Imam (meaning leader - he is not like a priest) to ask for forgiveness. Basically, Islam has cut the middle man. <<<<
Khansahib…if you don’t need middleman, why bother with Mullahs to lead you in your prayers, and Prophets to believe in? Direct, yeah sure. God is hidden in some creak and only Mullahs know where, my guess is in Tora Borah.
AAGirl, excellent idea, but one of these 3 faiths needs to grow up a little (I mean to age a little). You know what I mean.
NYA, Mullah, Maulvi, Imam or whatever you call them are not middlemen. Imam literally means leader and anybody including you can become an Imam (to lead any prayer). Also, you don't need prophets to believe in anything. Afterall, you have so many beliefs and I don't think u needed any prophet to believe in whatevery you believe.
"what kind of reconcilation are you looking for. Islam is more than a religion it is a complete system.
I see these interfaith and abrahmic faith organisatins as reducing islam as a system to just a faith with few rules about washing etc.
While the West is bombing the crap out of muslims around the world how can you talk about reconcilation actions speak louder than words your leader bush is xstian is he not along with lot of his."
No one is trying to reduce Islam. No one.
Isn't Islam a system of faith? With rules to live by? Live by those rules if they bring you closer to the One God we all believe in.
We all believe in the same God.
BTW, I didn't vote for Bush.
Actions do speak louder then words. Absolutely. So I think its up to us people to share the best of our intentions. Respect each others traditions.
I certainly respect yours.
Reconciliation interfaith means, respect, appreciation ( to learn), tolerance, and mostly knowing that its all of our job/destiny to live in this world together. It was God's idea. He granted us this grace. Lets not disappoint him, whatever religion we may follow?