^ The point is Snowy........why is future wife's opinion supposed to be dealbreaker on whether one should go on a humping spree? Shouldn't one place more emphasis on their OWN opinion....their own common sense. Shouldn't one think that a woman or future wife's opinion will be nothing compared to Allah's already pre-established opinion on the issue?
Why is this such a hard concept for "chap" to understand? He just doesn't want to accept the obvious answer........so he most likely brings up the SAME issue time and time and time again........and he goes around in circles......asking the SAME questions in different ways........thinking that just MAYBE someone will tell him that.........."Go ahead dude. Hump away. Your future wife won't care as long as you are nice to her."
And then he chides other posters for being "baysharam/shameful/perverted" because they suggested jerking off/masturbating/using the "hand". Well......at least it's the less shameful option compared to zina. I find it funny that "chap" scolds US for being perverted...............whereas **HE **is indirectly asking if it's okay to sleep around before marriage when he clearly knows the Islamic answer and THAT should be enough for him.
Chap........do you feel like steeling/murdering/gambling? If you think that your future wife will be okay with these horrible activities from you past........you should go ahead and do them. Will you also ask your wife for her approval of any other gunnahs you would like to commit before marrying her? Think about this question and reflect over the holes in your logic.