Presence of Shirk among sunni and shia muslims [merged]

Re: Presence of Shirk among sunni and shia muslims

Hazrat Ali AS has been mushqil kusha during the time of Prophet Mohammad P.B.U.H… and he was the one Prophet P.B.U.H. called on as a wasila in Khyber, on night of hijrat and Mubahila.. he served as a wasila in khandaq and was a helper of poor and needy… Please read the following part of my earlier post and you’ll get your answer … He is the person who Prophet P.B.U.H as used as a wasila and who has helped Prophet P.B.U.H on several ocassions… Please correct me if I am wrong but isn’t it true if Prophet P.B.U.H called on Ali as a wasila of Prophet… wouldn’t this act be a sunnah if Prophet P.B.U.H did itl???


I believe when someone says Ya Ali Madad he is using Hazrat Ali A.S. as a waseela of Allah SWT and not interpreting him as God. Personally I don’t see anything wrong with using Hazrat Ali AS as wasila from Allah SWT. Because even at the time of Prophet Mohammad P.B.U.H. Prophet himself has used Hazrat Ali AS as wasila himself… An example would be the battle of Khyber where after days of unSuccess… Prophet P.B.U.H. finally called Hazrat Ali A.S as a wasila from Allah SWT to defeat Khyber… had Prophet P.B.U.H wanted… he could have just prayed to Allah SWT and Allah could have send an army of Ababeel or anything Allah SWT desired to help as in the past…(Please read the 5 verses of chapter 105 on the link below):
http://al-islam.org/quran/

but Prophet P.B.U.H. used Hazrat Ali AS as wasila… similarly on the night of Hijrat he asked Hazrat Ali AS to sleep in his bed … Similarly Hazrat Ali AS was a waseela in the battle of Khandaq where Umar Ibne Abduwad crossed the Khandaq and challenged Prophet … Prophet could have cursed him… but he used Hazrat Ali AS as a waseela from Allah SWT… a good example where Ahleybait were used as a wasila from God can be seen at the event of Mubahalah … where non muslims argued with Prophet P.B.U.H. for days but they were still not convinced and it got to a point that the following verse was revealed

Glorious Quran Chapter 3 Verse 61:
And unto him who disputeth with thee therein after the knowledge hath come unto thee, Say ! ( O’ Our Apostle Muhammad ! ) ( Unto them ) come ye, let us summon our sons, and ( ye summon ) your sons, and ( we summon ) our women and ( ye ) your women, and ( we summon ) ourselves and then let us invoke the curse of God on the liars ! http://al-islam.org/history/history/mubahila.htmlWhen the above verse was revealed of all the companions and family member … Prophet P.B.U.H. chose his Ahleybait A.S. (Bibi Fatima Zehra SA, Hazrat Ali AS, Hazrat Hassan AS and Hazrat Hussain AS) and when they saw the ahleybait they refused to do the mubahila. The fact that Prophet chose them when quran asked to curse on liars…shows the high status they had.

During the time of Prophet P.B.U.H.. Ahleybait were known for helping poor and needy… (Read the commentary or chapter 76 on the link below)

http://al-islam.org/quran/

I believe if someone says Ya Ali Madad he knows he is going to get help on the will of Allah SWT… but there is no way he is interpreting Hazrat Ali AS as Allah SWT (nauzubillah) because the fact that Hazrat Ali AS was matyred in the mosque during Salat shows that he himself bowed to Allah SWT. As muslims we all know that Prophet P.B.U.H. says everything on Allah’s will and it was Prophet P.B.U.H. who made Hazrat Ali AS … Maula for all of us…

"For whoever I am his Leader (mawla), 'Ali is his Leader (mawla)."http://al-islam.org/ghadir/