Prenuptial agreement

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Not 100% sure but I don't think a typical nikah holds any legal value here in the UK..

Our culture doesn't encourage clauses or conditions in the nikah contract anyway, esp from the wife.. 'Proper' nikah papers are meant to be seen as a contract with the option of adding clauses..

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or maybe, not marry a gold digger?

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You can add any clauses you want to a nikah nama. But if both the bride and groom are not represented by licensed attorneys who are NOT family members, it will be very easy for one of them (especially the wife) to challenge it during a divorce in a U.S. court and have the judge declare it invalid.

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yeah…damn women and buying broccoli and potatoes and stuff. they just cant resist ya kno! :nahi:

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I wouldn't mind signing it if it made the other person feel better BUT I would hope they don't see me as a gold digger.. kind of would make some women doubt what the guy perceives them as, so I can understand how some would see it as a turn-off. But looking at it from the guy's perspective, he just wants to protect what he's worked hard for, so can't blame a guy. So why not.

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I would be interested to see how many desi people actually signed prenup. Do you know of anyone who did?

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I dont know any. thats why i brought this question up. the guy I know is having a very hard time finding a desi wife. as soon as he brings up pre-nup, they always break off the rishta.

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If I were the guy, id be worried too. He makes a million a year. He wouldn't want all that being gone or taken away if a divorce happens.i understand the guy's point of view.

As a girl, I would feel uncomfortable signing a pre nup. It's just sooo... Awkward. Honestly I can't decide if I will or will not rishta a guy who wants a prenup, but I am leaning towards the yes side

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I know of one who's not yet married and both she and her parents are keen on doing a prenup.. She's an only child and lives in a million pound apartment in London.. Her parents supported her a lot financially so it's in their interests as well that some guy doesn't come along and clean her out..

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Yes, quite a few actually (and I'm including Indians, Pakistanis, and Bengalis). Generally these are couples where BOTH people make a good amount of money (usually $250K+) and have the potential to earn more in the future. Since BOTH people have worked hard to get to where they are financially, these couples typically tend to use their brains when it comes to financial decisions instead of emotions. Prenups are also not unheard of in couples where one spouse makes a lot of money and the other spouse's parents have a lot of money and want to protect what they're giving to their daughter or son.

What type of girls/families has your friend been dealing with so far? Are any of these girls that have freaked out at the idea of a prenup in a high paying career? Do any of these girls families have a lot wealth? Or are these immediate rejections coming from average middle class families where the girl (and her parents) do not have much financial assets of their own to protect?

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I think prenups especially in scenarios like pehali has mentioned help the couple focus on their marriage instead of money as both will feel secure.

I have no issue with a prenup.

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I know someone who signed a prenup, but she claims she didn't know she was signing it.

So the couple got married in a state neither of them were from (families decided to meet in the middle). The guy insisted on just having an Islamic nikkah and said he would register the marriage in his home state when they got there. When they went to the court to register the marriage the girl says that he gave her a bunch of papers and showed her where to sign. She signed without reading it. This girl is not stupid, very educated, and before she got married was very chalak. She just had a lapse in judgement I guess. Anyway, the prenup basically stated that anything the guy earned before, during, after was all his (he is a doctor), all jewelry (from her parents as well), will be transferred to him in case of divorce, she will get nothing if they divorce.

They did eventually divorce because he was very emotionally abusive and very controlling. The judge at their hearing granted her the house they lived in because he said the prenup was very unfair to her, but he said he can't give her anything else because it was all outlined in the prenup and she signed it.

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I favour pre-nups they're an important tool for any individual.

Think like a businessman/woman about this issue. One must always try to calculate risk and put in measures that will reduce or mitigate that risk to an appropriate level.

You have no issues buying life insurance, car insurance etc so why would you be against this?

If you really care about it that much don't officially get married? I have family members who are Islamically married only. They are seen as only dating in British law...

there is no need to split assets if both are working. And if anything is joint owned likely to a house/car only can be split equally.

Personally, I feel uncomfortable with the bias of the judicially in favour of women when it comes to divorce, custody etc?... It is hypocritical at best and unequal. But I am all for fair and just decisions. However who on earth thinks justly, fairly when they are getting divorced?

Its an emotionally charged situation and that is why I favour pre nups.

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its a matter of trust, I do pretty well, but my o/h's parents are millionaires so she wants a prenup discussion before we move things forward and I think it'd be a deal breaker for me (because i think its a matter of trust), but the thing is it's actually in my interest to get one since she has no property to her name right now and anything she inherits after being married is fair game for lawyers to go after, and also, any lawyer worth their salt can get a prenup thrown out in most states....

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Looking at the number of broken marriages, prenup should be made a requirement especially for those who are financially well off. It would also deter any gold diggers. At least save your wealth if you can’t save your marriage. LOL :hehe:

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This is exactly why I am pro-prenup. What have you done to deserve her inheritance?

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nothing, what has she done to deserve mine? doesnt have a job, no property etc, anyway anything that happens after a prenup is signed is open to lawyers to go apesh*t over

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Going after her wealth in own right isn't the same as going for her inheritance. And I doubt she would go after your money if she is well off herself. Such a counter productive point you make.

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what if the man is caught cheating or wants to leave his wife for another woman. in that case, shouldn't the wife get compensated?

I always thought, the judge supports the spouse that has been cheated on or the one whos been treated badly. I was under the assumption that women who end up getting alot in divorce settlements are those whos husbands had mistresses and were cheating.

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Courts are biased in favour of women. Simples.

If both of them work, then no.