Pregnant and Fired

** This woman, teaching in a catholic school, got fired coz shes having her baby out of wedlock. What do you guys think of this? **

      Unwed pre-K teacher files bias suit vs. Queens Catholic school        

            BY KATHLEEN LUCADAMO

DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/925-pregnant.jpg **Fired St. Rose of Lima teacher Michelle McCusker is flanked by parents, Susan and Gary, as she reads details of bias suit. **
An unmarried rookie teacher at a Queens parochial school confessed to her principal she was pregnant - and was promptly fired for violating “Catholic morality.” Now 26-year-old Michelle McCusker is suing, saying she was unfairly bounced just a month into her first full-time job as a pre-K teacher at St. Rose of Lima.

“I don’t understand how a religion that prides itself on forgiving and on valuing life could terminate me because I’m pregnant and choosing to have this baby,” said McCusker in between sobs with her parents by her side.

The New York Civil Liberties Union filed a federal discrimination complaint on the mother-to-be’s behalf against the Rockaway Beach school and Diocese of Brooklyn yesterday, charging McCusker was wrongly removed and that the church’s policy unfairly targets women.

“The school fired Ms. McCusker ostensibly for engaging in nonmarital sex but neither the school nor the diocese that runs the school enforces this policy against men,” said NYCLU’s head of Reproductive Rights Anna Schissel.

Principal Theresa Andersen commended McCusker’s job performance in an Oct. 11 termination letter, writing, “Your teaching ability and love of your children was of a high degree of professionalism.”

Andersen forwarded calls for comment to the Diocese of Brooklyn.

Church leaders said McCusker agreed to rules in their teacher personnel handbook, which states “a teacher is required to convey the teachings of the Catholic faith by his or her words and actions, demonstrating an acceptance of Gospel values and the Christian tradition.”

“This is a difficult situation for every person involved, but the school had no choice but to follow the principles contained in the teachers’ personnel handbook,” said diocese spokesman Frank DeRosa.

Two days after McCusker, a Catholic who graduated from St. John’s University in the spring, told Andersen that she was three months pregnant, she lost her $30,000-a-year job and health insurance. She is living with her parents on Long Island and working as a substitute teacher in city public schools.

“If I decided to abort the baby, the decision to fire me would not have been made because they would not have known,” said McCuster.

A similar case was brought in 2003 when the unmarried director of an after-school program for Catholic Charities of Buffalo became pregnant. She was demoted and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission found that the charity violated anti-discrimination laws.

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yeah i heard bout that

and i find it complete bull s****

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Why? How?

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^^

didnt u read the post?

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No i'm asking why do u find it bullshiit?

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oh becuz the school shudnt reallt care if the woman is preg and not married

or if she is married and preg

it shud be against the law

afterall usa is a free country

u have the rite to do watever u want

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^^

It's a Catholic school...In Catholicism, pre-marital sex is forbidden...If a teacher, someone to whom children look up to, indulges in behaviour that goes against the fundamental teachings and beliefs of the school, then she has no right to teach in that school...

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Oh okay...

frankly i think she shud quit complaining. There's a certain standard of behavior to follow. At my catholic school, there was never any crap like this... If i was her boss i'd fire her w/o a thought , as i wud fire a man who impregnanted a woman out of wedlock and employees indulging in un-Catholic behavior.. ** If this happened in an Islamic school, how would you feel ** ??

Then again, at what point can teachers keep their private life private? Lets say a woman is teaching and stuff, but on her weekends, she likes to go to clubs, or she's living with a boyfriend, but nobody knows about it, she doesnt brag about it at work or watever.. then r those ground sfor them to be fired? Hmmm

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The catholic school board has valid points (like Lajawab mentioned). And the woman herself has valid points (based on USA being a free country and what not).

Though i support the catholic school board's decision, i think the woman will win because im assuming USA's laws dont have much to do with religion.

Unless the school board have in their clause somewhere that people with bastrad kids cant teach. If thats the case then the teacher should have known that before taking up the job... or having the kid.

Sincerely,
Captain Lota

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Catholicism nowdays has reached a critical mass of hypocrisy...Maybe hypocrisy is too strong a word...Let's just say, looking the other way until proven otherwise...

Even then, until it threatens to blow out of proportion, it's all hush hush...When it does, as in this case, the act...

It's about upholding the image not the laws of Catholicism...

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^ Or how about just not having premarital sex ?? Is it really such a foreign concept in our society (amreeki) that holding off until marriage is freakish ???

And on the flip side, what if she had had an abortion? Let me guess, somehw it wud get out and then she'd still be screwed, job-wise because abortion is a sin in Catholicism (as is using condoms and birth control pills in catholic religion). So what's the bigger wrong? Killing your baby or raising it as a single mother ??

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Church leaders said McCusker agreed to rules in their teacher personnel handbook, which states "a teacher is required to convey the teachings of the Catholic faith by his or her words and actions, demonstrating an acceptance of Gospel values and the Christian tradition.
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If the above is true, then I don't see why she's surprised. When this woman took the job, if the school made it very clear that they expect their teachers to follow Catholic teachings, and she agreed to those rules and took the job, I don't understand why she's complaining. If she enjoyed sex that much with her bf's, then she should've never took the job at this school and instead gone to the numerous public schools where they don't give a **** about their teachers morals.

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^ Yeah exactly.

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Nope, school does not make it very clear, I believe its a generic statement written in very vague terms. While I understand that being a Catholic school teacher she shud hv followed the rules, many teachers in Catholic schools are not even Catholic, and therefore donot have an obligation to follow these laws. Comparing these schools to Islamic ones..?? For Islamic schools, you have to be a Muslim to get in most of the time, while Catholic schools are open to other religions as well.

Acc. to US laws, she has personal freedom and I don’t think the school has the right to question her lifestyle. Besides, they would never do that to a guy and simply put, I think its ridiculous to fire her!

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^ Doesn't matter, a Catholic wud hav to cover up when teaching in an Islamic school (if that's allowed, not sure) and a Muslim teachign in a catholic school, wud be following thier rules in regards to morals/behavior etc... at least wiht Muslims , with the exception of a few, the idea of premarital sex, children out of wedlock, and fags/dykesall being acceptable in Islam, our religion hasnt' been hijacked like with Catholics..

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Whether she knew that it was not allowed or not is one thing, and i agree that if it's in the school's rules then yes, she shud know that she wud be fired...however, i think it's stupid to have requirements like that for teaching (in a religious institution or not)...i know that the kids look up to her n all that...but wot about some privacy, wot about her rights...i think that just cos u have a child out of wedlock, that it doesn't make u a bad teacher all of a sudden...everyone makes mistakes, and even if it wasn't in her case, it's no reason to lose ur job...obviously she was good enough a teacher for them before, so wot if she's pregnant and if she's married or not...as long as it doesn't come into her teaching, her private life is hers to live as she wishes.

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very right of anyone to firre people who have no morals....
that too a school teacher....
imagine what kind of lesson the students will take from her....

very well done by the school to kick such an ill-character woman out....

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The rules are pretty simple. Employment is a contract. What does her contract say? Or if contract doesn't say anything. The school should put it in the contract of each employee that if they bear a child without wedlock. They will be fired without notice.

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Reminds me of a movie I saw where the principal of the Catholic school threatened to dismiss a Christian girl because she was dating a Muslim boy ...

Reminds me of a true incident where an American Christian radio station refused to air some promotional item of an organization because it represented Muslims...

Reminds of the time when people would have to alter their life style; their religious and political ideologies to get a job ...

I do not approve of premarital sex. But, in my humble opinion, it is wrong to dismiss a person because of something that has nothing to do with her role in the organization. She's not advocating premarital sex in the school. Either the government should change the law making it illegal to engage in premarital sex, or they should act against these religious or corporate enterprises that want their employees to be governed by the rules that are in direct conflict with state laws. How would we feel if the schools run by the Christian community in Pakistan asked students and staff members to follow the moral codes set by them, even outside the school boundaries?

Every organization has a code of conduct. Accepted. But you can't penalize a person for doing something that's allowed by the state. The law of the land overrides any corporate or organisational law. These schools are private, but they are not private property.

People have a choice now, but if all academic and corporate institutes started setting their own moral agendas to govern the lives of people even outside the organizational boundaries, then, perhaps, we would be living in a very different world.

It's just an opinion, and you're under no moral obligation to endorse it.