preaching by reasoning

The Quran says, “O Prophet invite to the Way of your Lord with wisdom and excellent preachings and argue with the people in the best manner”(16:125). In this way the Quran not only emphasized the use of the best possible substance but also the application of best possible method.

While taking its message across, The Quran further says “and do not dispute with the people of the Book except in the best manner, save with those who do wrong, and say to them, we have believed in that which has been sent down to us as well as in that which has been sent down to you. Our God and your God is one and to Him we have surrendered (as Muslims)” (29:46).

The Quran also tells us what kind of substance and what kind of method we should use while preaching and arguing with the people. The common points of faith are belief in the existence and Unity of Allah, belief in their scriptures and belief in their Prophets as the Messengers of Allah. The method to be applied according to the verse should be by taking a start from the common points of faith.

On the other hand if a start is taken directly from the points in dispute, it will have negative effect. That’s why the Quran lays emphasis on the use of best possible substance as well as the application of best possible method. All the letters sent by the Prophet (peace be upon him) to the Christian heads of states and tribes started with stressing the common points of faith.

In this connection the Quran cites an excellent example as to how one point of common faith can arouse sympathies towards each other. When the Romans who were Christians but believed in the Unity of Allah were defeated by the Persians, the Muslims of Makkah got very disappointed.

The people of Quraish tribe started joking with them saying that in the same manner as the Persians defeated the believers in the Unity of Allah, they (the Quraish) too will defeat the Muslims whenever they fought with them.

During this period, a few verses of Surah Ar-Room of the Quran were revealed which predicted that very soon the Romans will emerge as the victors and on that day the Muslims will rejoice (30:3,4). And the Romans did emerge as victors within a short span as predicted by the Quran.

The best way to preach is by reasoning as explained by the Quran with reference to the way Hazrat Ibrahim tried to convince the people about the authenticity of his message.

Hazrat Ibrahim had to deal with people professing different kinds of faith. Some of them took stars as their gods, some took moon and some took the sun as their gods and worshipped them.

To those who worshipped stars, he said that the star was his god when he saw the star in the night. But when in the morning he found that no star was visible anywhere he said how could he accept an object as his God which was apt to set.

Then to those who worshipped moon he said that the moon was his god when he saw it in the night. But when the moon disappeared in the morning, he exclaimed that surely one was likely to go astray without guidance from Allah. And finally to those who worshipped the sun, he said that the sun was his god which was the most powerful of all when he saw the sun in the morning. But when the sun disappeared in the evening, he said to the people that he was free of their guilt of associating partners with Allah.

Thus, in each case, Hazrat Ibrahim accepted the version of the concerned people first but rejected it subsequently when he came to know about its fallacy on the basis of solid proof. That’s why about the method so applied the Quran says “that was the reasoning about Us that We gave to Ibrahim (to use) against his people”(6:83).

In addition to the above, the Quran tells us about many facts and realities that can be used as substance in order to make such arguments more meaningful. The first instance that can be quoted in this connection could be the existence of harmony in the creation, a fact that cannot be denied on any score whatsoever, about which the Quran says “He raised the heavens high and set the balance”(55:7).

According to the verse, after the creation of all the stars, planets and other celestial bodies, Allah placed them in proper order so as to maintain the requisite degree of equilibrium and balance.

As the Quran says “the sun must not catch up the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion”(36:40).

It says again “Have they never looked up to the sky above them (and observed) how We made it and adorned it and there is no flaw in it”(50:6). It further says “such is the artistry of Allah Who arranges all things in perfect order”(27:88).

That’s why the renowned scientist Einstein said “God reveals himself in the harmony that exists in the creation”. According to Martin Lings "harmony is the imprint of Oneness upon multiplicity and the Quran draws attention to that harmony for man’s meditation.

Another fact worth quoting in this connection could be the creation of the universe itself about which the Quran says “do the non-believers not see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then we separated them”(21:30). The Arabic word “fataq” occurring in this verse implies separation by force or as a result of split or explosion.

The modern science has now found that originally the entire universe was a gaseous mass consisting of hydrogen and a certain amount of helium gases that was slowly rotating to which also there is a clear reference in the Quran (41:11).

After condensation and contraction, it turned into a super dense agglomeration of matter and finally got split through what the scientists call big bang. The fragments so separated from one another took the shape of billions of galaxies comprising stars, planets and other celestial bodies. This fact is further confirmed by another Quranic verse which says “I seek refuge with the Lord of Dawn (falaq)” (133:1).

The Arabic word “falaq” implies that which comes into being as a result of split or explosion. That’s why in another Quranic verse (6:96), the word “faliq” from the same root, has been used for the daybreak from the darkness (Dawn) which obviously occurs through a split, when the sun-rays pierce through the darkness of the night.

In this way, many other facts and instances narrated in the Quran can be used as the basis of arguments in line with the Quranic verse (telling the Prophet) “Say thou I do invite unto Allah on evidence clear as the seeing with one’s eyes”(12:108).

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and while doing so, ignorants tell you that you are hiding behind the ayaahz :slight_smile:

:jazak: for sharing. Let’s see how many people bother to read something that worth a read than fighting in threads and calling names to others.

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Its so true, Jazakallah for posting. Very good post! Will definitely change the way i argue now

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How does this reconcile to the methods of gazni and aurangezeb who sought to spread their islam by the sword? yet many muslims hail them as great islamic kings instead of excommunicating them posthumously!

but as we know now, his reasoning was fallacious - if you can reject the sun, moon and stars from being God because you can’t see them half the time, what happens when you apply same reasoning to the one that muslims believe is God?

stop right there! how do you equate dawn to be the result of an explosion or split? You cannot interpret haf the sentence literally and claim the other half to be symbolic or methaphoric. Which is it?

If you accept the fact that dawn occurs at sunrise as the only proof necessary for believing in Quron, the same claim has been made by religions much older than Islam - so will you accept them all?

the point I am trying to make is that it is counter-productive to look for every pehenomenon in any holy book. You end up stretching the sayings so far away and so thin that any sentence can be made to mean anything.

similarly, predictions do not make one God either - or else Nostradamus will be worshipped

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Oh, btw, I do completely agree that only reasoning works when it comes to any type of preaching. That's also why the mullahs who simply abide by something because they saw it Quron, without understanding the reasoning, are just dumb

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Atlantis my dear, yes the books that came b4 the quran probably may have been the word of Allah too but have gone thru alterations with time..
Its not necassary for us to follow aurangzeb & ghazni, who may have been great serveants of Islam, but not necassrily role models..Being muslims, our one & only role model should be the prophet (PBUH).
as for having rejected the star, sun , moon etc, how can u even equate them with almighty God esp. in this time & age.
we must remember that different prophets were sent in diff. eras..In the time of Moses (AS), magic was as its peak, therefore God gave him the power of being able to perform magic..at the time of Jesus (AS), people would dwell into healing powers so God gave him the powers of healing..And at the time of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) , Arabia was well populated with literary people & poets ..So God gave him the Quran.
The quran , if read properly, has most of the answers, so we need not go elsewhere..We Muslims are so fortunate to have this book.

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^ that's dandy. as long as no one has objections to questioning minds.

what do you think of the present era? Information era it is, so an IT guy could be the next prophet?

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Doc2000, I completely agree with your first post. You can not hurt someone and then expect them to listen to you.

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Atlantis..No one has said that u cannot ask questions in Islam..infact , it is encouraged. Its the only way one can broaden ones horizon to islam ..

Do i think that an IT guy can become a prophet? ..not at all, for the simple reason that i do not believe there will be another prophet...However, i know of many Islamic intellects/scholars who are also lawyers,doctors, IT consultants, accountants etc...and the IT consultants still refer to a book called the Quran which was revealed 1400 yrs ago rather than looking for answers in supercomputers.

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you said different prophets are sent down for different eras. This being the information era, why would you say an IT guy or gal won't be the next prophet?

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By era, it merely means the evolution of human brain, not how the techology progressed time to time.

The last Prophet:saw: came at the era when the evolution was completed, hence no prophet is to come NOW.

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Ofourse not! how do you conclude evolution was complete? the way humans live, think, interact, create - everything is completely different from last 500 years ago, let alone 1400 years ago. if that's not evolution, what is? some parts of the world, particularly some of the arabs and those who are stuck in the morass of caliphates may have stopped evolving but that's not true for the rest.

If people had said 1400 years what you're saying now, there would have been no Islamic way of life, would it?

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Brain evolution, not the life-style. errr

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to err is human - I forgive you:bukbuk:

let’s see: Demoracy, printing press, the Fifth Symphony, flying machines, blackberry, the Mars rover, penicillin - these are not developments of the brain? splendid

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No they are not:) they are just the later use of the evolution that was perfected by that era.

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^ I know, you're just going to stick to your story. Isn't that by itself proof the brain hasn't evolved fully yet?

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^
No it just proves that the evolution perfected 1400 years ago

nomesayin :flower1:

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Very interesting first post. But all the worlds reason is not enough unless you have some faith!

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^ but when faith becomes blind faith, reason is lost and you end up extremist anarchy in the name of Allah! that's what happened to osama and gang!

and that's what I'm trying get AnwarQ to understand

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:bism:

2:285 The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His apostles. “We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His apostles.” And they say: “We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys.”